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Hey guys, I wasn't sure if I had missed something somewhere, and a search turned up nothing, so just to be sure: when a Stormraven that is carrying a dreadnought is destroyed, and you roll a 1 for the embarked passenger, the dreadnought is destroyed, yes?

Similarly, if the Stormraven is carrying 5 models and a dreadnought, do you roll 6 dice and then choose who to apply the 1's to? Or do you roll for each model individually?

My interpretation of the two rules is 1) yes, the dreadnought is destroyed (unless I missed a FAQ) and 2) you disembark all units in the Stormraven, and then roll a dice for each model you disembarked, then choose which models the 1's apply to (obviously, you wouldn't choose your dreadnought).

Correct for both.

 puma713 wrote:
Hey guys, I wasn't sure if I had missed something somewhere, and a search turned up nothing, so just to be sure: when a Stormraven that is carrying a dreadnought is destroyed, and you roll a 1 for the embarked passenger, the dreadnought is destroyed, yes?

Similarly, if the Stormraven is carrying 5 models and a dreadnought, do you roll 6 dice and then choose who to apply the 1's to? Or do you roll for each model individually?

My interpretation of the two rules is 1) yes, the dreadnought is destroyed (unless I missed a FAQ) and 2) you disembark all units in the Stormraven, and then roll a dice for each model you disembarked, then choose which models the 1's apply to (obviously, you wouldn't choose your dreadnought).

The dice you roll for an "emergency disembark" are not tied to the model you are rolling for. You roll a dice for every model that disembarked and for every 1 a model of your choice is slain.

For example, a Stormraven with 5 Scouts and a Dreadnought is destroyed. The models then disembark, with any models unable to fit due to enemy models being slain. Let's say one of the Scouts can't fit, so it is slain outright. You now roll five dice, one for each surviving model. You roll four 6's and a 1. One of the five remaining models "(your choice)" is now slain. You can choose to make it the Dreadnought if you really want but I don't see anything beyond the most niche of situations where you would want to do so. If you rolled five 1's then all models would be slain, including the Dreadnought.

Thought so - thanks guys.

 puma713 wrote:
2) you disembark all units in the Stormraven, and then roll a dice for each model you disembarked, then choose which models the 1's apply to (obviously, you wouldn't choose your dreadnought).

I would think you would roll for each squad separately. So you roll 5 at a time then resolve then a additional one for the dreadnought. Similar to how aoe works each unit would be affected and rolled for individually.

TheBoy wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
2) you disembark all units in the Stormraven, and then roll a dice for each model you disembarked, then choose which models the 1's apply to (obviously, you wouldn't choose your dreadnought).

I would think you would roll for each squad separately. So you roll 5 at a time then resolve then a additional one for the dreadnought. Similar to how aoe works each unit would be affected and rolled for individually.

This is incorrect. Please reread the rules for Transports. BRB, Page 183, "Transports" boxout, "Embark" subsection, third paragraph.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

TheBoy wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
2) you disembark all units in the Stormraven, and then roll a dice for each model you disembarked, then choose which models the 1's apply to (obviously, you wouldn't choose your dreadnought).

I would think you would roll for each squad separately. So you roll 5 at a time then resolve then a additional one for the dreadnought. Similar to how aoe works each unit would be affected and rolled for individually.

This is incorrect. Please reread the rules for Transports. BRB, Page 183, "Transports" boxout, "Embark" subsection, third paragraph.

Also verified on page 11 of the Main Rulebook FAQ:

3. Roll a number of D6 equal to the number of models disembarked in this fashion.

4. Each result of a 1 yields a slain model, and must be allocated to one of the models which disembarked; the controlling player may choose which model.

It says a unit disembarks. Multiple units simultaneously disembark meaning the players whose turn it is would pick the order of simultaneous rule triggers. You would then disembark unit one. It's rules would trigger then unit two would activate it's rule triggers. And so on. Units disembark not models. Models are in units. Because a unit triggers before the other you would roll separately.

TheBoy wrote:
It says a unit disembarks. Multiple units simultaneously disembark meaning the players whose turn it is would pick the order of simultaneous rule triggers. You would then disembark unit one. It's rules would trigger then unit two would activate it's rule triggers. And so on. Units disembark not models. Models are in units. Because a unit triggers before the other you would roll separately.

Please read the rule and FAQ.

Firstly, the rule proves you wrong, you only roll after all units have disembarked. Even IF the rule proved you right, the FAQ overrides RaW and proves you wrong.

You roll as many dice as there are models that emergency disembarked from the transport, irrespective of what units they’re in.

You then remove a model of your choice for each 1.

It’s why I pop a cheap Troops unit in my Stormraven alongside my Veterans and Relic Contemptor Dreadnought, so that cheap dudes die not expensive ones... unless I roll *horribly*.