Is the Emperor essentially just a Chaos god?

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**Mud Turkey 13**

If my understanding is correct, the Chaos gods are basically just the embodiment of specific emotions(generally considered negative emotions by human standards), right?

Could the Emperor essentially just be an embodiment of other emotions that humans consider to be positive?

If he isn't, is there anything in the lore to suggest that there may be other Chaos gods(or perhaps lesser warp beings) that do represent these other emotions?

**Bharring**

There's suggestions that he's become a "Chaos God" - an uber powerful Immaterium entity, like the Big Four.

There's a lot of lore that suggests he wasn't always a "Chaos God", though.

There's also some terminology discussions about whether "Chaos Gods" are strictly the unordered Immaterium entities, such as the Big Four - which would mean that, even if he's now an Immaterium God just like the Big Four, technically he wouldn't be a "Chaos God" because he's not "Chaotic". But that's just a tautologic argument.

**Vaktathi**

Functionally...yeah that's basically what he is.

He's a powerful warp entity in the same vein as Khorne/Tzeentch/Slaanesh/Nurgle/Gork/Mork.

Now, the Emperor arose from different circumstances, and was essentially intentionally created as opposed to the Chaos Gods who manifested as expressions of felt emotion and thought over time, but ultimately he's basically the Chaos God of Human Will (or something along those lines) if one wanted to put it that way, though I'd probably put him more along the lines of Gork & Mork and not really identify him as "chaos" but just a warp entity.

**Stevefamine**

Thats basically my opinion/theory

**skchsan**

Good and evil are dependent on the viewpoint of the claimant. So I think it's fair to say based on the information out there, the big E is essentially of godhood status.

**Karhedron**

If he wasn't before, he certainly seems to be heading in that direction although he is a god of order rather than chaos. The following is Roboute Guilliman's ponderings on the subject in Dark Imperium.

Guilliman surveyed it all disapprovingly. Worship of his creator had become the bedrock of the Imperium. It was as pernicious as the efforts of Chaos, in its way. He did not understand it, but as he looked around this cathedral, one like many hundreds he had seen all across the Imperium, he doubted his own convictions regarding the Emperor’s divinity.

Theoretical, he thought. The Emperor is a god and denied His own divinity to protect humanity. Practical, He is a god.

Or, he continued to himself, Theoretical, the Emperor was not a god, but became one. Practical, He is a god.

He dismissed the idea angrily. These theoreticals had trooped through his thoughts so many times before he had grown weary of them, but his mind would not stop generating counter-arguments to his beliefs.

Theoretical, the Emperor was always a god, but was unaware of it. Practical, He is a god.

No, he thought.

Theoretical, the Emperor became a god to protect humanity. Practical, He is a god.

He is not a god, he thought.

Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. Practical, the Emperor is not a god.

‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. He could not countenance the thought. A being that cold and callous was not worthy of worship.

**greatbigtree**

I think it might be more a case of a god of order. If you think about it, his followers are dogmatic adherents utterly incapable of change or advancement. Structure and order, at any cost.

That’s my way of looking at it.

**Hellebore**

It is possible that a warp entity is forming around the worship of the emperor, but that doesn't mean the emperor himself is at the centre of it, anyone then me calling myself khorne makes me khorne.

The emperor's Gestalt soul is strictly separate from the distorted perception of him. 40k doesn't have directional worship - you can't aim it at something. This is why the chaos gods are so pernicious, because you feed them by emoting whether you want to orv not. Khorne gets skulls whether you say his name or not. If he didn't then he never would have appeared in the first place.

The emperor is getting more powerful though because he's consuming psyker souls, in the same way Phoenix lords absorb souls and the yncarne consumes them.

So what I can see happening is there being two super beings - the totalitarian order god imperator based on 10,000 years of misguided belief in order and xenophobia and intolerance and genocide, and the emperor reborn, a demigod who's soul Gestalt has been pumped fulll of hundreds of thousands of new souls.

But they are very different things