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2019/11/28 22:23:19
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
Do we know what year exactly the Imperium was left Primarchless. And exactly who was the last Primarch to feth off. Also how did the Primarchs even let that happen. Did not a single one of them sit down and think "yknow my brothers are disappearing at a astonishing rate. Maybe it would be a good idea to just never leave terra and assure the Imperium has competant leadership from now on" or did that just never occur to then?
2019/11/28 22:31:33
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
Technically speaking, Vulkan was the last one to leave before Guilliman returns in M41, and goes missing during the War of the Beast, taking on a threat that only Vulkan could deal with at the time.
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2019/11/28 23:13:24
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
014.M31 Siege of Terra
015.M31 Corax disappears into the EoT in a 1-man ship
015.M31 Johnson vanishes during the destruction of Caliban not long after the Siege of Terra (however long the Warp translation to Caliban took).
084.M31 Jaghati Khan lost in the Maelstrom pursuing Dark Eldar Corsairs.
121.M31 Guilliman fatally wounded by Fulgrim at the Battle of Thessala.
211.M31 Russ vanishes on the 197th anniversary of the Emperor's Ascension.
781.M31 Dorn is lost and presumed killed in an attack on the Chaos Battleship, Sword of Sacrilege.
544.M32 Last sighting of Vulkan during the Battle of the Beast.
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Rogal Dorn was alone for over 500 years (since not even he knew that Vulkan had been holding the webway breach since the Horus Heresy). Apparently he became rather morose and bitter by the end and basically committed suicide by heretic. A sensible thing would have been to wait at Terra and try to keep the Imperium on course but that was not his nature. Even Guilliman (the statesman and empire-builder) died pursuing Fulgrim.
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2019/12/01 03:06:51
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
What book covers Dorn’s attitude and him commuting suicide by heretic during the first crusade? I image Dorn would be one of the most resistant to that kind of pessimism. If what you say is true, then I can only imagine what straights Guilliman will be in after another couple hundred years. Of course, I think another loyalist primarch will be back before he tries to get hugged by the talon of horus.
2019/12/01 05:04:06
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
I hadn't heard of this lore with Vulkan holding the webway for 500 years...what I know and can find online is that he went around various campaigns and was even tortured by Curze for a while.
My Sisters of Battle Thread
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2019/12/01 09:21:54
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
mrwhoop wrote: I hadn't heard of this lore with Vulkan holding the webway for 500 years...what I know and can find online is that he went around various campaigns and was even tortured by Curze for a while.
It's in the War of the Beast series which is set about 1500 years after the Horus Heresy. The stuff with Curze happened in the opening stages of the Hersesy after Vulkan was captured at Istvaan.
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2019/12/01 19:48:06
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
mrwhoop wrote: I hadn't heard of this lore with Vulkan holding the webway for 500 years...what I know and can find online is that he went around various campaigns and was even tortured by Curze for a while.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vulkan#fn_16
Scroll down to the last few paragraphs of the Horus Heresy section.
2019/12/02 04:07:30
Subject: Re:When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
Which was my second online source check as "Little is known about him after this point. There are very few records". Nothing stating he was holding the breach in the Emperor's webway. Also, that was 1000 years after Dorn's disappearance so where did they meet up? My question stands that I haven't read anything like that bit about Vulkan.
*edited
So rereading the 500 year bit was it referring to Russ going off and then 500 for Dorn being alone so it was War of the Beast as the source? Because that link also doesn't mention Vulkan defending against the breach.
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My Sisters of Battle Thread
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/783053.page
2019/12/02 04:44:11
Subject: Re:When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
mrwhoop wrote: Which was my second online source check as "Little is known about him after this point. There are very few records". Nothing stating he was holding the breach in the Emperor's webway. Also, that was 1000 years after Dorn's disappearance so where did they meet up? My question stands that I haven't read anything like that bit about Vulkan.
*edited
So rereading the 500 year bit was it referring to Russ going off and then 500 for Dorn being alone so it was War of the Beast as the source? Because that link also doesn't mention Vulkan defending against the breach.
In the latest Siege of Terra book you find out Vulkan has been on Terra for a while and holding the breach. Dorn, Sangy, and Khan all did not know he was already in the Palace. Im pretty sure Vulkan couldnt help defend traitor legions because he was busy fighting daemons. Not sure what he did after that but I assume he continued to hold the webway breach
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mrwhoop wrote: Which was my second online source check as "Little is known about him after this point. There are very few records". Nothing stating he was holding the breach in the Emperor's webway. Also, that was 1000 years after Dorn's disappearance so where did they meet up? My question stands that I haven't read anything like that bit about Vulkan.
*edited
So rereading the 500 year bit was it referring to Russ going off and then 500 for Dorn being alone so it was War of the Beast as the source? Because that link also doesn't mention Vulkan defending against the breach.
In the latest Siege of Terra book you find out Vulkan has been on Terra for a while and holding the breach. Dorn, Sangy, and Khan all did not know he was already in the Palace. Im pretty sure Vulkan couldnt help defend traitor legions because he was busy fighting daemons. Not sure what he did after that but I assume he continued to hold the webway breach
Thanks for that, I'll have to read up on that set of the HH books
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My Sisters of Battle Thread
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2019/12/02 12:51:37
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
I thought that's what happened at the end of Master of Mankind. How could Vulkan, alone, fight off all the legions of daemons trying to invade the palace? Even if he had mechanicum assistance, like the Custodes did?
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2019/12/03 14:08:44
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
Maybe it wasn't entirely closed, and so Vulkan could hold a choke-point, or maybe he's the custodian for cleaning up whatever handful of daemons had snuck in.
2019/12/04 00:33:39
Subject: When did the last Primarch Die and or Disappear
I'm pretty sure it was all closed. Even then, why waste a primarch on holding a choke point when you could just deploy a few servitors? It doesn't make sense, but I haven't read the books. He probably just didn't get to terra all that fast, so he only had a short time to relax like Corax.