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**Ghaz**

From Warhammer Community:

Wherever we’re from in the world, and whichever armies we collect, something that unites Warhammer 40,000 fans is the love we have for our models. We build them, paint them and unleash them on the battlefield – they become a part of us, right? Sure, some of those models may be coated in the slightly-too-thick paint of a fledgeling hobbyist earning their stripes,* but we still love ‘em.

The inexorable march of time means some of these veteran miniatures eventually get left behind. As codexes are revised and editions (and eons) pass, classic models become unavailable, no longer finding their way into current publications. Rather than consign these battleworn relics to oblivion at the back of your shelves, however, we are happy to present them as Warhammer Legends.

The Warhammer 40,000 Legends page contains datasheets and additional wargear options, definitive profiles that will live on their own dedicated page, enabling you to unleash your treasured classics in open, narrative and matched play games, with full points provided to help you balance your games.

A word to the wise, however – these profiles will not be curated as part of the annual points review, and as such aren’t really intended for use in competitive play (unless, you know, you want to organise an event where Legends are welcome).

So, all that remains is to get over to the Warhammer Legends page and take a look at all the sweet datasheets there, then decide which model you’re going to dust off first.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/legends/

**changemod**

No Necrons? We’re missing a ton of things,

A lot of the other pdfs seem really anaemic too.

**pm713**

It feels a lot like the standard minimum effort to me.

**Carnikang**

Tyranids got away with just Spike Rifles and Stranglewebs being moved there....

Perhaps there is hope for Sky Slashers and Shrikes.

**Polonius**

pm713 wrote:
It feels a lot like the standard minimum effort to me.

I get that, but what were you expecting beyond collecting all index options into a single pdf?

Since it's meant to provide datasheets for non-codex options that are no longer supported, we knew it wasn't going to be new content.

**OrkPlayer137**

It's curious that the Ork Big Mek's KFF has been taken away, while at the same time Chapter Approved has an entry for a new model in the points table: "Big Mek with Kustom Force Field" (not the mega armour version, which is listed separately), even though there is no datasheet with that name. Either somebody at GW mistakenly thought there was a datasheet like that in the Ork Codex, or else there might be a new model on the way soon!

A couple of other annoyances: the Legends datasheets for older characters that have since been replaced with Primaris still have the same old name - it would have been better if they had renamed them to reduce confusion (e.g. adding "in Terminator Armour" to the old Marneus Calgar datasheet). Then the Space Marine Company Veteran sergeant on bike still can't take a storm shield, even though the rest of the squad can and the normal Company Veteran sergeant can.

**Ghaz**

pm713 wrote:
It feels a lot like the standard minimum effort to me.

Or this is ust the start with more to come in time.

**vim_the_good**

I thought all the AM special characters that are no longer produced or have a codex entry would be in. Only rough riders?!

**techsoldaten**

No Doomrider. The ultimate legend and they chose to ignore him.

*sigh* Maybe this means we will see him in an upcoming release.

**Polonius**

vim_the_good wrote:
I thought all the AM special characters that are no longer produced or have a codex entry would be in. Only rough riders?!

They never had 8th edition rules. Cant' squat what's already been squatted.

**Lord Damocles**

Deathwatch Dreadnought still can't take a Multi-Melta. Worst purging of options ever.

**Dr. Mills**

You are still able to take a libby with storm shield. That's interesting.

**Bdrone**

the AOS legends side is up as well, and... that PDF is huge. i don't know AoS but can someone explain that one?

(Edit) as im flipping through the 40k options, a whole lot of cutomizations for weapons took the brunt. by storm bolter sister superiors, and just about every canoness ranged variant.

Also, did you model power mauls or axes? double check, a lot of those for a few factions went clean out the window whilst on fire.

**solkan**

Wow, that’s a weird way for GW to say “You’re not getting this option back.”

**kodos**

The rules presented here are designed to be definitive, and will only be updated when we change the core mechanics of the game. This means that Legends units are not designed for matched play (as they won’t, for example, have regular points updates)

**Polonius**

Bdrone wrote:
the AOS legends side is up as well, and... that PDF is huge. i don't know AoS but can someone explain that one?

Basically, huge chunks of old WFB armies won't have any active AOS support any more. When they switched over, everything (or nearly so) got a datasheet, and eventually points. As more and more stuff has moved to battletomes, the list of "fully supported" stuff has shrunk.

for example, the Cities of Sigmar book includes rules for what's left of Empire, Dwarfs, High Elves, non spirit Wood Elves, and non-khaine Dark Elves.

**Ghaz**

Bdrone wrote:
the AOS legends side is up as well, and... that PDF is huge. i don't know AoS but can someone explain that one?

Did you check the dates? The AoS Legends date from between March 2018 to March 2019 and only consists of five PDFs.

**Bdrone**

fair enough, i hadn't seen the dates, i just clicked on the pdf, saw how huge it was and said

"wait, Skaven are still a thing in AoS. they still sell them. just how much stuff got tossed?"

I'm partial to them, so i was a bit shocked. i wonder how they play now.

(edit): and sorry any fan of LoTD, apparently.

**parakuribo**

I was hoping Kranon and Felthius' gangs are in this, but well...

On a totally unrelated note, Can I have a battle forged army if it includes Flawless host and half of the Crimson Slaughter troops from DV in seperate batlegroups(minus the cultists)?

**Overread**

Bdrone wrote:
fair enough, i hadn't seen the dates, i just clicked on the pdf, saw how huge it was and said

"wait, Skaven are still a thing in AoS. they still sell them. just how much stuff got tossed?"

I'm partial to them, so i was a bit shocked. i wonder how they play now.

(edit): and sorry any fan of LoTD, apparently.

Skaven actually survived AoS almost fully intact. They even got the Warpfire thrower in metal re-released. I think the only thing actually missing is a few character leaders and the Warpglobe thrower. Almost everything else for skaven is in. Of course Skaven have a lot of metal and finecast and very early plastics in their range. So whilst they've made it into AoS and avoided the big culling that many armies experienced; they are also quite out of date in material terms. Though I'd say most of the leader/character metal models still stand the test of time really well - as do a good few of the other metals. Finecast is, of course, finecast with all its risks - whilst the early plastics you can still get in the "Island of Blood" skaven half on ebay if you're lucky - there's quite a few of those kits still kicking around in whole or in parts - though things ilke the rat ogres from it are quite expensive to pick up.

**BrookM**

Was hoping for more character-wise, like Macharius and Gaunt, but hopefully in the future we may see them return.

**Polonius**

BrookM wrote:
Was hoping for more character-wise, like Macharius and Gaunt, but hopefully in the future we may see them return.

I think it would be cool as well, but I'm not sure it meshes will with their overall approach of preserving index rules. Macharius hasn't had rules since IIRC the first 3rd edition, IG book and Gaunt lost his from the 3rd edition book in 5th edition.

**OrkPlayer137**

No more Warboss on Warbike! Can only use the special character from Forgeworld now.

**sinthes**

On page 12 of the ork legends document (not sure if it's the same for other legends documents) under wargear options it says "The datasheets from Codex: Orks that are listed below are updated as follows:" dose this mean that these wargear options only aply when using legends or is it an eratta adding these option too the codex? I'm more of a collecter then a player but have recently started getting into the game side of things so I am Just looking for some clarification.

**OrkPlayer137**

sinthes wrote:
On page 12 of the ork legends document (not sure if it's the same for other legends documents) under wargear options it says "The datasheets from Codex: Orks that are listed below are updated as follows:" dose this mean that these wargear options only aply when using legends or is it an eratta adding these option too the codex? I'm more of a collecter then a player but have recently started getting into the game side of things so I am Just looking for some clarification.

It means you can use them only with Legends. Updates to the Codex will be in the Codex FAQ instead.

**BrianDavion**

sinthes wrote:
On page 12 of the ork legends document (not sure if it's the same for other legends documents) under wargear options it says "The datasheets from Codex: Orks that are listed below are updated as follows:" dose this mean that these wargear options only aply when using legends or is it an eratta adding these option too the codex? I'm more of a collecter then a player but have recently started getting into the game side of things so I am Just looking for some clarification.

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yeah those war gear are legends only, so just for example, if a sister of battle sister superior uses a stormolter.. it's l;egends, nothing says you can't use it but GW's not taking into account that they can have stormbolters in future books, or with regards to points and isn't factoring them into balance so advises tournies agaisnt allowing it

**Polonius**

also, not to get too cheeky, but models like Gaunt can be so easily repped with the current rules. With camo cloaks on characters having minimal value, he's pretty much a combination commissar/company commander. Which means you can run him as a commissar with master of command or a CC with Draconian discipline.

Solar is a bit trickier, of course, but I'd rep him as a non-psyker inquistiro with Formidable Resolve to give yourself a nice LD10 bubble.

**Crispy78**

Part of me is a little disappointed that things like DE characters aren't listed. But a big part of me is pleasantly surprised that it's a free download rather than a paid-for book...

**LunarSol**

Mangler Squigs got Legended? That seems completely bizarre given the new kit and the fact its part of two battalions.

**Grimtuff**

Sooo.... looking through a few of the SM ones, it appears the WHW exclusive tanks have been moved to Legends. Quite odd seeing as they sell the product (albeit only at one location). I was under the impression this was for stuff that was OOP.