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Hello all, quick question. I am looking to build a world eaters space marine army (battalion detachment) and had a question about including bloodletters in my list which a troop choice for CSM. I am under the impression that I can include them in my World Eaters list with no hitches on not being able to use CSM traits and strategems. Another gamer is telling me that "Including the bloodletters who do not have legion keyword makes the detachment unaligned and make it so none gets legion trait, you don’t unlock any stratagem (csm or CD)." Which one is correct. Thank you in advance. FP

 jpjupiter wrote:
Hello all, quick question. I am looking to build a world eaters space marine army (battalion detachment) and had a question about including bloodletters in my list which a troop choice for CSM. I am under the impression that I can include them in my World Eaters list with no hitches on not being able to use CSM traits and strategems. Another gamer is telling me that "Including the bloodletters who do not have legion keyword makes the detachment unaligned and make it so none gets legion trait, you don’t unlock any stratagem (csm or CD)." Which one is correct. Thank you in advance. FP

Bloodletters are not World Eaters - they're missing the necessary keyword. As such, they can't be used in a World Eaters detachment, so their detachment would lose its bonuses.

What you can do is have a World Eaters detachment, and then a separate Daemons detachment (maybe a Herald and a couple of units of Bloodletters), which would also give you access to the Daemons traits and stratagems.

Another alternative - and the reason Bloodletters are in the CSM book - is that your Khorne characters can summon them mid-battle. I should warn you that the rules for this are bit awkward in matched play due to the need to set aside reinforcement points, and it's also generally considered somewhat underpowered.

Hope this helps!

good stuff. thanks for the reply. I have some moving around to do then

Aelyn wrote:

 jpjupiter wrote:
Hello all, quick question. I am looking to build a world eaters space marine army (battalion detachment) and had a question about including bloodletters in my list which a troop choice for CSM. I am under the impression that I can include them in my World Eaters list with no hitches on not being able to use CSM traits and strategems. Another gamer is telling me that "Including the bloodletters who do not have legion keyword makes the detachment unaligned and make it so none gets legion trait, you don’t unlock any stratagem (csm or CD)." Which one is correct. Thank you in advance. FP

Bloodletters are not World Eaters - they're missing the necessary keyword. As such, they can't be used in a World Eaters detachment, so their detachment would lose its bonuses.

What you can do is have a World Eaters detachment, and then a separate Daemons detachment (maybe a Herald and a couple of units of Bloodletters), which would also give you access to the Daemons traits and stratagems.

Another alternative - and the reason Bloodletters are in the CSM book - is that your Khorne characters can summon them mid-battle. I should warn you that the rules for this are bit awkward in matched play due to the need to set aside reinforcement points, and it's also generally considered somewhat underpowered.

Hope this helps!

Yeah, I've been looking at a pure Slannesh-aligned daemon list and the summoning rules strike me as kind of a trap. It's basically just deep strike with some pretty bad restrictions and a random chance of failure, I can't see a circumstance where it would be a strategic advantage.

Summoning is not so bad when you're using a R&H backline with Slaanesh Daemons 'cause your R&H likely don't want to move anyway and your Summoned units are pretty fast.

Still not good, but not so bad.

And you can use it to get around the Rule of Three if you build five Hellflayers by accident.