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Honor the Chapter says that a SM unit that is still in melee "at the end of the fight phase" can fight a second time. If I use HtC to fight, wipe out my target, and then consolidate into a new unit, does that unit get to make attacks as normal after a Consolidate move, or does "end of the fight phase" override that?

I would argue that since it says "at the end of the fight phase" (ie after all eligible models have fought) the fight phase isn't actually over and if new models enter melee range as a result then the fight phase would continue, but it's sadly ambiguous.

From BRB update 1.4 (1.6 is the current version). This has already been answered a long time ago.

Q: When using an ability or Stratagem at the end of the Fight
phase to immediately fight again (e.g. Fury of Khorne) and the
selected unit moves within 1" of an enemy unit that has not yet
fought this phase, after fighting with the unit selected, can that
enemy unit now fight even though it’s the end of the Fight phase?
A: Yes.

That would be lovely if Dakka's search tool wasn't apparently non-functional. It gives me "no results found" no matter what I put into the bar.

I meant answered in the FAQs. Always check there first.

The Newman wrote:
Honor the Chapter says that a SM unit that is still in melee "at the end of the fight phase" can fight a second time. If I use HtC to fight, wipe out my target, and then consolidate into a new unit, does that unit get to make attacks as normal after a Consolidate move, or does "end of the fight phase" override that?

I would argue that since it says "at the end of the fight phase" (ie after all eligible models have fought) the fight phase isn't actually over and if new models enter melee range as a result then the fight phase would continue, but it's sadly ambiguous.

You can not attack a unit you did not charge, or one that you were not within 1" of at the start of the fight phase.

So you can not make attacks against a unit that you consolidate into.

Edit (For clarification):

Your unit can not make attacks, the unit you consolidated into does get to make attacks on your unit though.

 DeathReaper wrote:

The Newman wrote:
Honor the Chapter says that a SM unit that is still in melee "at the end of the fight phase" can fight a second time. If I use HtC to fight, wipe out my target, and then consolidate into a new unit, does that unit get to make attacks as normal after a Consolidate move, or does "end of the fight phase" override that?

I would argue that since it says "at the end of the fight phase" (ie after all eligible models have fought) the fight phase isn't actually over and if new models enter melee range as a result then the fight phase would continue, but it's sadly ambiguous.

You can not attack a unit you did not charge, or one that you were not within 1" of at the start of the fight phase.

So you can not make attacks against a unit that you consolidate into.

Edit (For clarification):

Your unit can not make attacks, the unit you consolidated into does get to make attacks on your unit though.

Point of info: That first line isn’t correct. There’s no “at the start of the Fight Phase” check for within 1”. You just check for within 1” when activating a unit, else units consolidated into wouldn’t get to fight back... and they do.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

The Newman wrote:
Honor the Chapter says that a SM unit that is still in melee "at the end of the fight phase" can fight a second time. If I use HtC to fight, wipe out my target, and then consolidate into a new unit, does that unit get to make attacks as normal after a Consolidate move, or does "end of the fight phase" override that?

I would argue that since it says "at the end of the fight phase" (ie after all eligible models have fought) the fight phase isn't actually over and if new models enter melee range as a result then the fight phase would continue, but it's sadly ambiguous.

You can not attack a unit you did not charge, or one that you were not within 1" of at the start of the fight phase.

So you can not make attacks against a unit that you consolidate into.

Edit (For clarification):

Your unit can not make attacks, the unit you consolidated into does get to make attacks on your unit though.

Point of info: That first line isn’t correct. There’s no “at the start of the Fight Phase” check for within 1”. You just check for within 1” when activating a unit, else units consolidated into wouldn’t get to fight back... and they do.

By "within 1" of at the start of the fight phase" I meant for that particular unit. Sorry if that was unclear.

That’s still incorrect. Units can be chosen to fight (subject to Charge restrictions) if there’s a unit that is within 1”, whether that is because the unit began the Fight Phase within 1” or moved to within 1” later. No “start of Fight Phase” condition, and separate units don’t have separate Fight Phases.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
That’s still incorrect. Units can be chosen to fight (subject to Charge restrictions) if there’s a unit that is within 1”, whether that is because the unit began the Fight Phase within 1” or moved to within 1” later. No “start of Fight Phase” condition, and separate units don’t have separate Fight Phases.

Again you misunderstand what I meant when I said "at the start of the fight phase". Basically I meant when they are chosen to fight.

Thanks for the additional attempts to help, but p5freak pointed me right at the answer I was looking for. My phone isn't great at searching through a .pdf and I was looking for the wrong term anyway, and searching for "honor the chapter" or even just "honor" on this forum found nothing even though I could see a thread with "honor the chapter" in the title.

The specific question was whether my opponent's unit could still fight if I consolidated into it as part of resolving HtC, I thought they could and he thought Marines were even more broken than they actually are.