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So basicly my question is, in which order are stratagems used if both players can use one at the same time.

Example:
My Deathwing has a stratagem that allows them to shoot in the movement phase after they have been set up from teleport strike.
My opponent also has a stratagem, that allows him to shoot at that unit when it is set up after teleport strike.

Obviously it might be critical to determine who shoots first in this scenario.
My take would be, that the player who's turn it is is always allowed to do his stuff first. So in the example above, the deathwing could shoot first.

Another option would be to let everything happen at the same time. However, this does not seem right to me, as the next example shows.

Example:
My Tau Commander may move after it made a shooting attack (for example out of LOS ).
My enemy has a stratagem, that allows a unit that dies to shoot one last time.
In this scenario if both abilities are handled at the same time, the move is basicly pointless.

Best Regards
Aeri

From the Battle Primer (p4) -

Sequencing
While playing Warhammer 40,000, you’ll occasionally find that two or more rules are to be resolved at the same time – normally ‘at the start of the Movement phase’ or ‘before the battle begins’. When this happens during the game, the player whose turn it is chooses the order. If these things occur before or after the game, or at the start or end of a battle round, the players roll off and the winner decides in what order the rules are resolved.

As the sequencing rule above describes, the active player (the player who's turn it is) decides the order to do things.

Make sure that the things really are happening simultaneously though.

The trigger for the space marine banner is a model being removed as a casualty. The trigger for the stratagem is immediately after shooting.

If you are firing two weapons, and the first weapon kills an enemy model, then the banner will trigger before you finish shooting and therefore before you have a chance to move.

There's also the issue of whether the casualty being removed is part of the model shooting, in which case that must be resolved (including the chance to shoot back) before you can move. But I'm not certain where I fall on that yet, I'll wait to see what arguments others make.

Nothing in 40k happens at the same time. If something would happen at the same time, the sequencing rules comes into play. Sequencing literally means that something happens first, then something happens after that, then something else happens after that, etc.

In your deathwing example the player whose turn it is could decide that his stratagem comes first, and would shoot the deathwing unit. After all shots have been resolved the other players deathwing stratagem would be resolved.

And for the tau example, a slain model is removed during resolve attacks of the shooting phase, step 5, inflict damage. The tau commander wouldnt be able to move before the model can shoot back with the stratagem.

 p5freak wrote:
Nothing in 40k happens at the same time.

That is a misnomer, because things in 40k happen at the same time all the time, thus the need for the "Sequencing" rules to make them happen in sequence.

Sequencing rules, 40K Battle Primer P. 4 wrote:While playing Warhammer 40,000, you’ll occasionally find that two or more rules are to be resolved at the same time...

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Nothing in 40k happens at the same time.

That is a misnomer, because things in 40k happen at the same time all the time, thus the need for the "Sequencing" rules to make them happen in sequence.

Sequencing rules, 40K Battle Primer P. 4 wrote:While playing Warhammer 40,000, you’ll occasionally find that two or more rules are to be resolved at the same time...

The point is that while rules might want to happen at the same time, the Sequencing rule means they do not resolve at the same time. If Rule A and Rule B happen at the same time, and via Sequencing Rule A causes models wanting to use Rule B to die, the dead models are still dead when Rule B resolves.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Nothing in 40k happens at the same time.

That is a misnomer, because things in 40k happen at the same time all the time, thus the need for the "Sequencing" rules to make them happen in sequence.

Which means they dont happen at the same time. If i kill some of your models during sequencing those models cannot shoot at my models, because i killed them first.

 p5freak wrote:

And for the tau example, a slain model is removed during resolve attacks of the shooting phase, step 5, inflict damage. The tau commander wouldnt be able to move before the model can shoot back with the stratagem.

Well explained, I agree with this.

You cannot move your Tau commander before the killed model has a chance to shoot back, because the banner ability is resolved as part of the steps for resolving the shooting of the Tau commander, and it cant move until immediately after it shoots.

 p5freak wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Nothing in 40k happens at the same time.

That is a misnomer, because things in 40k happen at the same time all the time, thus the need for the "Sequencing" rules to make them happen in sequence.

Which means they dont happen at the same time. If i kill some of your models during sequencing those models cannot shoot at my models, because i killed them first.

If they did not happen at the same time, then the "Sequencing" rules would not be referenced...

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Nothing in 40k happens at the same time.

That is a misnomer, because things in 40k happen at the same time all the time, thus the need for the "Sequencing" rules to make them happen in sequence.

Which means they dont happen at the same time. If i kill some of your models during sequencing those models cannot shoot at my models, because i killed them first.

If they did not happen at the same time, then the "Sequencing" rules would not be referenced...

Ok, let's not have this argument. It's not relevant to the question, it's just semantics.