Daemonic Titans

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**darkoms**

As far as I know, demons are the only faction that does not have their own titans
Orcs have gargants, tyranids have bio titans, necrons have their own titans, such as the Aeonic Sphere or Megalith.
But what about the demons? Perhaps the analogues of the titans are simply the uber-powerful greater daemons/daemon princes? The demon prince Ghargatuloth, as I recall, was so huge that it reached the clouds and there is a Prisoner of the Emerald Cave. Great Unclean One (possibly) who was larger than Warhounds Titan and easily withstood the massive fire that was directed against him
So what do you think? And do you know any more examples of such demons?

**locarno24**

There are both possessed titans (The warhound and reaver in 7th edition had the option of daemonic possession, which is still in the background but has no effect in the rules).

As to enormous daemons, look at the forge world daemon lords - zynakell, anggrath, aetos'rau'keres and scabiathrax.

There are bigger daemons in stories but they're as big as it gets on the table top.

**Lord Damocles**

Codex: Chaos Daemons (8th ed.), pg.42 wrote:ENGINES INFERNAL

A Daemon Engine is a nightmarish amalgamation of the real
and unreal – a malevolent creature of the warp bound inside a
construct of metal, animated by both the Daemon’s spirit and
the machinery within. Driven insane by its imprisonment, the
immortal sentience within a Daemon Engine makes such war
machines difficult to control; in a state of constant, apoplectic
fury, they will often break free of their moorings and rampage
across the battlefield, slaughtering indiscriminately and turning
their massively destructive weaponry on friend and foe alike.

While Khorne is especially fond of these killing machines,
every Chaos God employs Daemon Engines. They range
in scale from constructs such as the Blood Throne to the
enormous Lord of Skulls. There are larger ones still, including
the colossal Legionus Engines – towering conglomerations
into which are bound entire Daemon legions. These dwarf
even the Chaos Titans maintained by theWarpsmiths. Such
Daemon Engines of world-obliterating power require so
much warp energy to sustain themselves that they are rarely
seen outside of the immaterium, although with massive warp
storms raging in the wake of the Great Rift, it is only a matter
of time before these abominations emerge.

**darkoms**

locarno24 wrote:
There are both possessed titans (The warhound and reaver in 7th edition had the option of daemonic possession, which is still in the background but has no effect in the rules).

As to enormous daemons, look at the forge world daemon lords - zynakell, anggrath, aetos'rau'keres and scabiathrax.

There are bigger daemons in stories but they're as big as it gets on the table top.

These demons are cool only in the description from FW
In the canon of GW, Calgar killed AngGrat just by clapping his hands

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Lord Damocles wrote:
Codex: Chaos Daemons (8th ed.), pg.42 wrote:ENGINES INFERNAL

A Daemon Engine is a nightmarish amalgamation of the real
and unreal – a malevolent creature of the warp bound inside a
construct of metal, animated by both the Daemon’s spirit and
the machinery within. Driven insane by its imprisonment, the
immortal sentience within a Daemon Engine makes such war
machines difficult to control; in a state of constant, apoplectic
fury, they will often break free of their moorings and rampage
across the battlefield, slaughtering indiscriminately and turning
their massively destructive weaponry on friend and foe alike.

While Khorne is especially fond of these killing machines,
every Chaos God employs Daemon Engines. They range
in scale from constructs such as the Blood Throne to the
enormous Lord of Skulls. There are larger ones still, including
the colossal Legionus Engines – towering conglomerations
into which are bound entire Daemon legions. These dwarf
even the Chaos Titans maintained by theWarpsmiths. Such
Daemon Engines of world-obliterating power require so
much warp energy to sustain themselves that they are rarely
seen outside of the immaterium, although with massive warp
storms raging in the wake of the Great Rift, it is only a matter
of time before these abominations emerge.

I asked about daemons that are strong in themselves to be considered titans
And I could be wrong, but it seems these demonic engines are used by the armies of chaos Space Marines, and not by the daemons themselves

**locarno24**

Anggrath is GW's favourite worf character.
In fairness, every huge daemon tends to lose simply because they're invariably the antagonist.

And in the case of Angelus Prime, Calgar did beat him but that was (a) on consecrated ground and (b) after he'd gone through papa smurf's honour guard and several storm talons to reach him.

The biggest daemon I've seen in any book is in the Titan Graphic Novel, 'Cold Steel'. That thing is HUGE, and vaporized a pair of Warlord Titans and barely even noticed......

**Overread**

Back in the days of Titan Legions and Epic 40K the old Greater Demon models (the metal ones) counted as models for both 40K and Epic - where in Epic they were titan sized versions of themselves.

Of course times have changed and the new models for 40K are far bigger, but also wouldn't hold the right details and structure to count-as in the new Adpeticus Titanticus - but who knows if AT keeps doing well GW might one day release new chaos titan-sized demon lords!

**SlaveToDorkness**

Overread wrote:
Back in the days of Titan Legions and Epic 40K the old Greater Demon models (the metal ones) counted as models for both 40K and Epic - where in Epic they were titan sized versions of themselves.

Of course times have changed and the new models for 40K are far bigger, but also wouldn't hold the right details and structure to count-as in the new Adpeticus Titanticus - but who knows if AT keeps doing well GW might one day release new chaos titan-sized demon lords!

Huh, never heard that one. They did have models of GDs in Epic scale, they were slightly smaller than a regular 28mm scale model.

**Jackal90**

30k has ruinstorm ArchDaemons which are absolutely huge gargantuan creatures.
They are a step above the big FW ones.

**Overread**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Overread wrote:
Back in the days of Titan Legions and Epic 40K the old Greater Demon models (the metal ones) counted as models for both 40K and Epic - where in Epic they were titan sized versions of themselves.

Of course times have changed and the new models for 40K are far bigger, but also wouldn't hold the right details and structure to count-as in the new Adpeticus Titanticus - but who knows if AT keeps doing well GW might one day release new chaos titan-sized demon lords!

Huh, never heard that one. They did have models of GDs in Epic scale, they were slightly smaller than a regular 28mm scale model.

Hmm its a been a long while I might have mixed it up. I was sure they were one and the same, but they might have been just slightly smaller versions of the same appearing demons.

**darkoms**

locarno24 wrote:

The biggest daemon I've seen in any book is in the Titan Graphic Novel, 'Cold Steel'. That thing is HUGE, and vaporized a pair of Warlord Titans and barely even noticed......

Can you tell in more detail what kind of demon?

**locarno24**

Not really. The thing is vaguely insectile and conforms to no type of daemon you've seen named.
There are some brutally huge khymerai equivalents, too, which can only be seen visually, not via sensors.