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Hi Folks,
So I'm a dedicated all-things-Chaos 40k player who has recently developed an interest into AoS, and wanted to ask your advice on getting into the hobby. I have a large collection of Daemons (I need to update my signature), and thought that they would be a convenient first port of call for entering the business. I was wondering which of the AoS armies (DoK, MKoN, DoT, HoS) provide the most options for a decent army composed only (or overwhelmingly primarily) of Daemons. I have basically 2 of every unit that Daemons offer, except for Greater Daemons. So perhaps I'll refine my question to which army provides the best option for a decent Daemon force that doesn't necessitate having 3 (or even 2) Greater Daemons?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

So you want hordes of daemon? Are Daemon Princes ok? What about mid size ones like Drones, chariots, Enlighten, etc..

Also DoK is an Order race, unless you mean BoK (Blades of Khorne).

Do you like Melee, shooting, magic better? Or what about Glass cannon vs Tanky? Fast or slow?

I have multiples of basically all Daemon models except Greater Daemons. It's not that I have a preference for hordes at all, it's just that I can't run multiples of Greater Daemons. Everything else is fine.

I did mean BoK, not DoK. Khorne has disciples too, so it confuses me.

As for what I like, I'm up for anything. I already have the models, so I'm just interested in what is most viable with all daemons.

Hedonites are the strongest of the 4. Fast, can control combat by forcing the opponent to go last, and has the best summoning in the game. Down side is you basically need to run at least 2, preferably 3, Keeper of Secrets.

Disciples of Tzeentch just had a huge update. You can run pure Deamons but your basic Battleline, Horrors, are only Battleline when the unit contains only Pink Horrors and cost 200 points for 10. However, each Pink Horror is basically 5 wounds thanks to Split. (Blues and Brimstones cost less but are not Battleline) Flamers and Screamers can be Battleline if you run certain cults. Lots of magic which is also summoning mechanic. Almost every unit has, or can have, shooting. Destiny Dice lets you force clutch rolls. Their Locus was reworked into an army wide -1 to-hit in melee as long as you are close to a Deamon Hero.

I'm not overly familiar with Nurgle or Khorne so can't help you there.

Hope this helps.

 TonyH122 wrote:
I have multiples of basically all Daemon models except Greater Daemons. It's not that I have a preference for hordes at all, it's just that I can't run multiples of Greater Daemons. Everything else is fine.

I did mean BoK, not DoK. Khorne has disciples too, so it confuses me.

As for what I like, I'm up for anything. I already have the models, so I'm just interested in what is most viable with all daemons.

What daemons do you have the most of?

Of the 4, HoS are the strongest. By far. But you’ll want those GDs you say you don’t have. 2 is mean, 3 is sadistic, 4 downright makes you “that guy”.

Of course, running DoT with Archaon added in (he has MoT and is a Daemon/Mortal combo) is nasty too because you can control dice rolls (put him and Kairos together, though it’ll cost you 1200pts already).

Khorne is probably next for straight daemons and Nurgle is at the bottom (daemons specifically) at the moment. Although Nurgle Daemons can include Verminlords of Corruption (they have MoN).

Basically...big daemons good, small slaanesh and tzeentch daemons require a bunch of models and small slaanesh stuff is fast and has a lot of attacks, but no staying power.

I play Khorne, so will start with that. Also fits that its probably the weakest.

Not sure I like Khorne as a daemon army, Bloodthirsters and Flesh Hounds are great, but they are mostly the only daemons I use and rest of army is mortals. Daemon Prince is something I'm considering since they got new rules with StD, but not tested yet. I tried playing more daemons and have a hard time make it work.

Next up, Nurgle daemons can be fun, and I think their smaller stuff is better than Khorne, but probably still looking at more than 1 GUO to really make it work.

Slaanesh are heavy daemon, but the lists have been leaning heavy on Keepers. Thing is they where nerfed a month ago, so need to work out what works now, maybe it changes the lists we see, but not sure.

New Tzeentch book looks like the way to go, not sure if you want to mix in a few mortals. But several of the daemon units look very good and its not all up to the greater daemons, probably still want one. But unlike the other armies, so far the army looks to not be build on them.

Looks like Wrath of the Everchosen will allow you to play a combined Daemon army:

If you play a Chaos army (or want to start) this book is a must-have, detailing a new combined daemon allegiance.

We'll have to wait and see exactly what that entails.

Thanks again, guys!

I do have one of each Greater Daemon, so I have some options there. I just don't fancy the idea of doubling up, both for expense, and because I think multiple Greater Daemons look a lot less striking. Skarbrand is an exception here, as his model is sufficiently different.

As for the advice:
Wrath of the Everchosen looks like it's the perfect time to get into AoS with Daemons. Well, I think it's a sign from our Lord and Saviour, GW.

Khorne: It's a shame, as I love Khorne the most of all. However, he does seem to have a force most reliant on Mortals. The Mortals look great, but I just don't have the ability to invest. I'll give a pure Daemon list a whirl at some stage, but perhaps down the track.

Nurgle: No one seems very enthusiastic about the smelly boys at the moment, Daemons or otherwise. At least Nurgle Daemons are semi-playable in 40k, so they might have to keep their home in the grimdark for now.

Slaanesh: As mentioned, I do have 1 KoS, so it looks like I can make a workable list. And that's all I really wanted; I didn't want to power game, or go super competitive. It seems the consensus (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that 1 KoS and the other heroes (Syll'Esske, Epitome, Heralds) will make a workable list. I'm glad, as I love my Perverts! Glad to see they're an option! I'll have to pick up a Fane, though, but that's no problem.

Tzeentch: Well, it seems that Tzeentch has been storming the LVO, and perhaps I should have mentioned before that, playing TSons, I have a good slab of Gors of various kinds (Tzaan, Shaman, and bow-boys). I even already picked up an Ogroid and Gaunt Summoners (on and off disc) as replacement Tzeentch DPs and Heralds (disliking the GW models for these), so I'm actually pretty flush with Tzeentch. I appreciate that it was more a certain list (or sub-faction: Changehost) that swept LVO, but it is telling that Tzeentch in general is in a good spot. I have no interest in chasing the meta, so I'm hardly going to follow that, but that I can take a LoC, some horrors, and flamers makes me happy (i.e. core Tzeentch), and I won't be able to resist chucking in some chariots. My only issue is that a magic/shooting list might not be he best at learning AoS fundamentals, it being more melee focused (as all good games should be - looking at you, 40k).

TL;DR: So Tzeentch it seems to be, while having non-spammy Slaanesh in my back pocket. Hope that in running these two armies in non-spammy way (no triple-KoS, no Changehost) won't make me too many enemies, given the state of the meta