My area is semi-competitive, we never do any hyper-competitive stuff and often do some pretty janky stuff because its funny.
That being said, i really want to use the Looted Wagons just because they fit various kitbashes better than a standard wagon does, both aesthetically and weapon loudout wise. Problem is Powerlevels are horrible imo, the general idea is 1PL = 20pts but that waivers by quite a bit depending on the codex. CA releases update points but never seem to change the PL.
Example: Admech. Usually when i make a 2000pt list for Orks its just shy of 100pl, but for admech im usually 120-130pl for the same points. Thats a huge difference, so we avoid PL like the plague because we've noticed a lot of units have that issue.
So i need to translate the looted wagon trio into a points system to use them. Fortunately the only "unique" weapon is the stikkbomb launcha, which i'd say is probably a 1pt option since its just a 2D6 stikkbomb thats one shot only anyway. Pretty pathetic for a 1shot weapon.
Kart: 60pts base (max loadout: Bigshoota, 2 skorchas, 6 shootas, stikkbomb launcha = 100pts)
-->Its a Trukk with more guns, T7 and a 3+ save, but lacks the Ramshackle rule. Also 10models instead of 12, which for orks can be annoying. Being roughly the same as a Trukk base seems right.
Wagon: 140pts base (max loadout: Killkannon, 1 Zzap, 2 rokkits, stikkbomb launcha = 198pts)
--Gunwagon with better side-gun options (skorchas or rokkits instead of only bigshootas), "main gun" cannot be a Zzap but it can have it at the same time as the other two, 3+ save but 4 less wounds same toughness (with 'ard case). Gunwagons are also 140pts base, i think the lack of wounds in exchange for the "Big Red Button" and 3+ save is justified on its own (initially i mathed this to be around 170pts based on the PL and that felt way overpriced). Also, Wagons have 0 transport power. Not that you'd use a gunwagon to transport but it cant be an emergency escape for a character (which ive done to royally piss off my friends lol)
Battlefortress: 350pts base (max loudout: [Main Gun], 1 Bigshoota, 1 Killkannon, 2 skorcha, 2 Zzaps, 2 Rokkits, 4 Twin Skorchas, 2 Stikkbomb launchas = 534pts)
-->This is the one that im both most interested in using and also the most sketchy on points for. Primarily because orks have no direct analog for this one, its effectively a Baneblade. Both its main gun options are free, but the noticably weaker one allows a transport of 30 while the stronger one doesnt have any transport so dont think i need to give them points. It fires while in combat so doesnt care if it gets into melee, but thats about the limit of its special rules since "Big Red Button" is only a once per game thing and is relatively minor. This both feels a little cheap and right on the nose at the same time to me. Degrading its BS at 13wounds remaining to a 6+ really hurts it.
Do these sound fair to you guys or should they go up a bit?
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