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Hey Guys,

I’m conflicted between two lists for a ITC style tournament coming up. The first has 5 flyers which would deal with units out of los along with the tfc. The talons would also snipe in guarded characters.

The second has a second rep ex but only 3 fliers.

Both only have 4 cp as they are ih successors. I’ve gone for scions of the forge instead of stealthy cause they’re likely to get hit and will but close to the opponent so will likely not benefit from stealthy. I’m not 100% this is legal though.

Meta is iron hands imperial fist crimson fist de weird non meta Eldar guard. There will be a lot of sm.


++ Supreme command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [61 PL, 1,159pts, 3CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands Successor, Master Artisans, Stealthy

Detachment CP [5CP]

Stratagem: Bequeathed by the Iron Council [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Chaplain [4 PL, 72pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, Boltgun, Litany of Hate

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

Spearhead

Techmarine [4 PL, 52pts, -1CP]: Master of the Machine, Power axe, Servo-arm, Storm bolter, Strategem: Master of the Forge, The Ironstone, Warlord

+ Heavy Support +

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 303pts]: 2x Heavy flamer, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array

Repulsor Executioner [15 PL, 330pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Laser Destroyer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm bolter, Twin Heavy Bolter, Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [43 PL, 841pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands Successor, Master Artisans, Scions of the Forge

+ Flyer +

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 164pts]: Twin assault cannon, Two Heavy Bolters

Stormtalon Gunship [8 PL, 164pts]: Twin assault cannon, Two Heavy Bolters

++ Total: [104 PL, 3CP, 2,000pts] ++

List two


++ Spearhead detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [61 PL, 1,159pts, 3CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands Successor, Master Artisans, Stealthy

Detachment CP [5CP]

Stratagem: Bequeathed by the Iron Council [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Chaplain [4 PL, 72pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, Boltgun, Litany of Hate

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Heavy Support +

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 303pts]: 2x Heavy flamer, Storm cannon array, Storm cannon array

Repulsor Executioner [15 PL, 330pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Laser Destroyer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm bolter, Twin Heavy Bolter, Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy

Repulsor Executioner [15 PL, 330pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Laser Destroyer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm bolter, Twin Heavy Bolter, Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy


Spearhead detachment

Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

Techmarine [4 PL, 50pts, -1CP]: Master of the Machine, Power axe, Servo-arm, bolt gun, Strategem: Master of the Forge, The Ironstone, Warlord

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Thunderfire Cannon [4 PL, 92pts]
. Techmarine Gunner
. . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [43 PL, 841pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

**Chapter Selection**: Iron Hands Successor, Master Artisans, Scions of the Forge

+ Flyer +

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

Stormhawk Interceptor [9 PL, 171pts]: 2x Assault cannon, Icarus stormcannon, Typhoon missile launcher

++ Total: [104 PL, 3CP, 2,000pts] ++

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No troops?

There's a ITC tourney stomper named Ray Ahumada. He's sporting an elvish flyer list. Ray is good with pretty much anything. Your list ... well I think it would play the same. No troops.

Given this has a similar ... tactical style, unless yer really good, I'd swap out one "flight" for a battalion, at least with a minimum of Intersessors, 3x5. CPs make or break wins. The Levi works best with Troops to hand off wounds, right?

The idea would be to keep the opponent off objectives with superior fire power planes to get behind terrain and tfc to shoot at units out of los. I would sacrifice board control for the first couple of turns to take kill and kill more.

Obviously the weakness is the very little cp which I would spend on the lev dread and shooting the rep ex again when it does. Also the list does lack a good screen. If I was to take three units of intercessor what should I drop? Talons in list one or a rep ex in list 2?

Talons. They're the squishiest, relatively speaking.