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Hello all!

I have some older armies (Dwarfs & Tomb Kings), but I was wondering how any of you feel about buying newer models to use with your old lists. I have a set of Orcs from AoS that I'm looking to build a small army. I'm also tossing around the idea of finding newer plastic models from various companies to use for a Vampire Counts army - or gothic-style undead army.

Thoughts?

-Bill

Use the models that make you happy for the rules you like. There is no law saying that you have to use GW models. If you play at places other than GW stores you see armies built of all kind of models.

That’s good. Thank you. More specifically, I think I would further ask - what models are out there for Vampire Counts army (or a more generic gothic undead army)?

I’ve been impressed with the modern plastic sculpts and I’ve always rather worked with plastic over multi-pieced metal sculpts. So, I’m wondering what companies out there make gothic undead armies.

Keep the game alive your way, and if this means using new sculpts then please do.

I am fully in agreement with using modern kits for WHFB, new modesl mean higher quality standards most of the time. Best example here are the new greater daemons. My Great One One fits on a custom 100x100mm base in 3mm board, I even bevelled the edge so it looks more in keeping with the GW bases. I do not care there never were 100x100mm bases it fits my fatty. Anyone who disagrees is a confirmed 'that guy', that is universally accepted because I am clearly not modelling for advantage but maximising rule of cool with the plastic Great Unclean One.


I bought some Plague Toads, non Forgeworld ones that need 50x50mm bases to fit. in either case I use Beast of Nurgle rules for them. This is somewhat more questionable so no 'that guy' status for you if you dont want to play them, but nobody complains because again its not modelling for advantage and it fits rule of cool.


One of my Heralds is on a Palanquin and sits in a Plaguebearer unit, the model is a slightly less cultivated looking Horticulous Slimux, more combat mount, less Farmer Giles.


This requires a 50x75mm base, so it has one, I still call it infantry under the palanquin rule and he still hides in a unit of Plaguebearers. Now you could argue an advantage over the 40x40mm base in that it takes up the footprint of six Plaguebearers, but it fits neatly is a no fuss model and applies rule of cool, so I get zero complaints.
What applies to my Nurgle Daemon army applies to many others, but its a more clear application here as I use some non-GW models and modern GW models that have obvious parallels to existing models but dont fit on the same bases. My Nurgle army is a joy and I am not trying to cheese anything.


Motive is everything, if you have new sculpts you really want to field, but dont fit existing bases make do as you can and will. The new Black Coach is a case in point, superior sculpt but a vastly bigger model to the original, even though the scaling is appropriate. This model requires a basing standard all of its own, 50x200mm fits to get it any smaller requires creative modelling such as arching the train tighter, and even then requires 50x150mm. You could reduce the horse team, but why should you. The model is awesome do as you will to keep it if you want to field it.


The recently released Slaves to Darkness models also come to mind strongly here. Then you need to convert carefully or apply a new basing convention. Now the new Slaves to Darkness boxset will be a difficult choice, yes they look very dynamic, but they will be hell to rank up. Frankly I decided to avoid this challenge and will not be using this kit for my Warriors of Chaos army. Yes they look new and superior sculpts, but I dont think the workload to make them servicable for WHFB is worth it unlike my Nurgle and Nighthaunt models. Your time skill and focus will make the primary difference, no point planning a new look army if you wont get around to it or don't have chops for necessary conversion work. But do not allow that guys' to be a factor.

 cpt_safety wrote:
That’s good. Thank you. More specifically, I think I would further ask - what models are out there for Vampire Counts army (or a more generic gothic undead army)?

I’ve been impressed with the modern plastic sculpts and I’ve always rather worked with plastic over multi-pieced metal sculpts. So, I’m wondering what companies out there make gothic undead armies.

For more "gothic"/medieval type of models, I quite like these.

http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/es/52-vampiros

https://pledgemanager.es/Ampurias


But, as others said, the best way to build an army is to do whatever you want without necessary following what some rules pretend to be "the way". Especially on a no longer supported game.

Mantic isn't bad for undead models. They can look a bit on the weedy side but skeletons are weedy to begin with. The Mantic sculpts are not as detailed as some other companies but with a hord army you don't notice as much and you get a good amount for your $$.

I use updated kits all the time.

I use Varanguard Knights as undivided Skullcrushers.

I also use the new Treekin models.

As long as it works in fantasy and its a better model, i'll use it.