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So with the new GK tides, im trying to figure out if vehicles touching ruins would get the -1 to hit.


I'm reading it as "entirely (on or within)" but one of my friends is arguing that its read as "(entirely on) or (within)"

Is this just another case of GW's poor wording?

This isn’t a GW wording problem. The rule is clear.

It is "within"
It just is not entirely within
And that's not what's neeeded, so alls fine.

From the FAQ:

Q: When determining whether a model benefits from cover, does the model’s entire unit need to be fully on or within terrain, or just the model making a particular saving throw?
A: All of the models in a unit need to be at least partially on or within terrain if any of the models are to receive the +1 bonus to their saving throw.

It is enough for the vehicle to be just touching the terrain.

This could be interpreted either way based on the plain English, but if you look at the wording of the basic rule for being in cover its exactly the same wording: "if a unit is entirely on or within cover"

Key here I guess is that the unit is the subject of the sentence, which is clear enough to distinguish what they're talking about from GWs point of view. Could definitely be clearer I think.

Note this wording isn't relevant to the 'entirely within' designers commentary/faq clarification entry which they published, the wording is different. Thats what tripped me up initially but people here have it right, touching area terrain is fine to get the -1.