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Krazed Killa Kan




Claremont, ON

So I've been working on the below list for some time. It's relatively straight forward and I am a big fan of the CC element so I have a bloody rose repentia force with some cool characters in rhinos pressing forward. Let me know your thoughts on load outs and if there is a need to do much changes to relics and what not to optimize the build:

Valorus Heart Brigade
HQ
Celestine
Canoness; Indomitable Belief; Boof of St lucius; Condemnor Bolt gun; Blessed blade. Moves up with with giving off Aura for invul improvment
Canoness; Beacon of Faith (-1CP), plasma pistol, power sword & rod of Office. Baby sits the Exorsists for rerolls

Troops
5 Battle sisters: 2 storm bolters
5 Battle sisters: 2 storm bolters
5 Battle sisters: 2 storm bolters
5 Battle sisters: 2 storm bolters
5 Battle sisters: 2 storm bolters
5 Battle sisters: 1 storm bolter

Elites
2 Geminae. Does not take up slot
Imagifier; tale of Stoic. Baby sits with Exorcists
Imagifier; tale of Stoic. Walks up with Canoness and force
Preacher. Goes in rhino with Repentia for +1 A

Fast Attack
5 Seraphim 2x2 inferno pistols (drop turn 2 Deadly decent)
5 Seraphim 2x2 inferno pistols (drop turn 3 Deadly decent)
5 Seraphim 2x2 hand flamers. Deploys and moves up with force

Heavy
Exorcist
Exorcist
Exorcist

Bloody Rose Vangaurd

HQ
Canoness; Bolt Pistol, Beneficence relic Chainsword (-1CP)

Elite
8 Repentia
7 Repentia
Imagifier; tale of warrio +1 S
Repentia Superior. Does not take up slot

Dedicated Transport
Rhino
Rhino

No slot detachment
Inquisitor Greyfax. Moves up with Bloody rose rhinos to cast terrify to hopefully stop overwatch and provide some much needed denys. I realize Coteaz is the better choice but an all female cast is ideal. I've also procured a female preacher model to maintain the theme.

Greyfax does not hinder the ability to take sacred rites so I will likely roll for two rites and hope for some good stuff.

Thoughts?

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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader




TX, US

I like the list, the problem is just 2 Rhinos. When your opponent finds out what’s in them they’ll focus fire them to break the shell and then shoot what’s inside.
Unfortunately this is the Sisters current problem- if you go mech you gotta overload the field with mech so something gets through.
Otherwise take a mostly walking force. In this case the 130 pts for the rhinos would give you a 3rd Repentia unit or take a unit of Mortifiers.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





He has 3 exorcists. So either he shoots rhino's and exorcists kill him or he'll shoot exorcist and rhino's get forward. Or he gets turn 1 and moves forward to where you needed anyway. (and if you go second put the rhino's out of LOS. If your board can't hide 2 rhino's then you have too little terrain)

And being valorous heart odds are those exorcists are far from easily taken out.

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Sister Vastly Superior




Definitely plenty of standard/good stuff there.

Few ideas, Backfield Canoness - Make WL, Litanies of Faith? Why Preacher over Missionary? Do you need a 4+ invulnerable on infantry?

Or ignore me and do you; as long as you're enjoying Sisters
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Preacher is cheaper and more crucially I think it fills the 3rd minimum elite for brigade. Without he would have just 2 units that counts for elite. Gemini are ignored.

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Sister Vastly Superior




tneva82 wrote:
Preacher is cheaper and more crucially I think it fills the 3rd minimum elite for brigade. Without he would have just 2 units that counts for elite. Gemini are ignored.
They fill the slot if you replace Celestine with a Missionary...

But as another aside, I can't see the Book of St Lucius or Rod of Office achieving much for the cost
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Well yeah but that's rather significant change dropping 160 pts special character And frankly without that geminia are not all that useful.

Besides the flee denial aura benefit is pretty minor. Both give extra attack, both are W4 4++ models. No big difference between them.

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Benificence relic chainsword isn't valorous heart -- its locked to bloody rose, unless my reading of d4chan has led me astray. (I am quite excited now that I have the book but its in my car.)

With 3+ double ignore ap armor and potentially even cover, it will be unusual for your forces to need 4++ saves, I suspect. Some armies will be made of -3 to ap, but a lot out there are set up to scrape things onto their invuln with -2 as the "big guns" and -1 as the "take all comers" ... those armies are already negated by your imagifiers. Certainly a lot of melee things can cause you to need the 4++, but some armies are going to be surprisingly weak at pushing lots of troops onto that extra save, even in the current meta with its centurions in cover (your troops are as good with -1 ap ignore).
All I am saying is, consider carefully if you want to lock yourself into the warlord trait on your warlord that can only do that one thing, in case you are suddenly fighting a gaurd army of battlecannon tanks (all ap-2) or a huge horde of nids, or the grey knights and oyu wish you could make your backfield chainsword cannoness grant -3 to psykers instead of your frontfield one grant an extra 1++.

Maybe warlord the beacon of faith one, set up the chainsword one as a light anti-psyker (that can be upgraded to beacon of eternal flame) and set up the front canoness as a smash slicer (blessed blade, bad attitude, and could be upgraded to 1++ improvement). Greyfax wil synergize, I believe, giving her denies something like 4 points of advantage against the poor psyker on the other side.

A subtle change, but you can look at your enemy and then pick if your army has shut out a psyker army entirely OR give your front row 1++ ... and you will always have the beacon granting extra miracle dice/babysitting the exorcists (two things I would probably always want to have.)

Take all my advice with a smidge of skepticism as I have not yet gotten my sisters army on the table

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Dukeofstuff wrote:
Benificence relic chainsword isn't valorous heart -- its locked to bloody rose, unless my reading of d4chan has led me astray. (I am quite excited now that I have the book but its in my car.)


The benificience canoness is bloody rose vanquard Common setup. Valorous heart for shooty elements, bloody rose for melee hack&slash elements.


All I am saying is, consider carefully if you want to lock yourself into the warlord trait on your warlord that can only do that one thing, in case you are suddenly fighting a gaurd army of battlecannon tanks (all ap-2) or a huge horde of nids, or the grey knights and oyu wish you could make your backfield chainsword cannoness grant -3 to psykers instead of your frontfield one grant an extra 1++.


At least here warlord traits are flexible(ie you can change them before deployment). Unless he's playing different type of meta he's not locking himself to anything.

But yeah I would swap that WT actually to the bloody rose. Tag team her with celestine to try to give repentia 4++/5+++. That is nice resiliency.

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5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
Made in ca
Krazed Killa Kan




Claremont, ON

Thanks for all the input. Celestine is a must have for me and yes the preacher is needed for the brigade. Missionary and preacher are basically the same and I'll go the cheaper route.

I've also looked at replacing the hand flamer seraphim squad with a stormbolter Dominion to scout up and put some pressure on any scouting enemy stuff. They will likely do more damage than the seraphim and the movement isn't that much of a difference once I've scouted up. The stormbolter strat could be a good first turn pressure on a unit.

I do like the Idea of the bloody rose WL so that I may switch up.

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