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Want to enroll in local event with my harlequins. I'm new to kill team and have some doubts about — which list of 3 is better. With commander or without.

Non-Leader list

Kill Team List (Harlequins) [198pts]

Leader

Player [12pts]
Selections: Harlequin's blade, Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path


Specialists

Player [17pts]
Combat
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Neuro disruptor [2pts], Veiled Path
Player [15pts]
Zealot
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [14pts]
Scout
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Non-specialists

Player [15pts]
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [15pts]
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled PathPlayer
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Neuro disruptor [2pts], Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Neuro disruptor [2pts], Veiled Path
Player [14pts]
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Troupe Master List

Commander

Troupe Master [57pts]
Melee
Selections: Harlequin's caress [7pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Leader

Player [14pts]
Selections: Harlequin's blade, Neuro disruptor [2pts], Veiled Path

Specialists

Player [15pts]
Combat
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [15pts]
Zealot
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [14pts]
Scout
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Non-specialists

Player [17pts]
Selections: Fusion pistol [3pts], Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Veiled Path
Player [18pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Neuro disruptor [2pts], Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Shadowseer List

Commander

Shadowseer [65pts]
Psyker
Selections: 0. Psybolt, 1. Fog of Dreams, 3. Mirror of Minds, Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Leader

Player [12pts]
Selections: Harlequin's blade, Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Specialists

Player [15pts]
Combat
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [15pts]
Zealot
Selections: Harlequin's caress [3pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [14pts]
Scout
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Non-specialists

Player [14pts]
Selections: Harlequin's embrace [2pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path
Player [16pts]
Selections: Harlequin's kiss [4pts], Shuriken pistol, Veiled Path

Not played a commanders game, but given that the Harlequins are stuck with being fast close-quarter units, I wouldn't want more of the same.

A Shadowseer opens up the psychic phase while the Death Jester provides long range support. Given its 20 points cheaper, I'd go for the Death Jester just to remind the other player that he cannot rely on keeping their distance. With that 20 point difference you can easily afford another well-armed troupe player.

Generally you don't get a choice of including a commander or not - the mission will dictate whether or not you take a commander.

You have enough roster room to accomodate all three and a jester.

I agree that the jester and seer are both more interesting than the troupe master. Which is better will depend on mission and opponent.