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Hi,

I have a question regarding the Astra Militarum Warlord trait "Implacable Determination".

It reads "When your Warlord and a single friendly unit within 3'' of him advances, they may add 6'' to their move characteristic for that movement phase instead of rolling a dice."
When do I have to choose the additional unit, especially looking at the distance requirement?

I try to attach a picture to illustrate the question at three examples. We have the Warlord in red and three units, A, B and C in blue, none of which has moved so far.
1. A makes his normal move, gets into 3'' of the Warlord and than want's to advance.
2. B is within 3'' of the Warlord, starts its movement phase, gets out of 3'' of the Warlord and then wants to advance
3. B is within 3'' of the Warlord, the WL starts his movement phase, moves/advances. B is no longer within 3'' but was, when the WL declared he wants to move/advance
4. C is outside of 3'' of the Warlord at the beginning of the movement phase. The WL moves/advances and finishes his movement phase within 3'' of C. C is now chosen to move/advance

Which one of A,B,C are legal targets to profit from the WL trait?

You need to be within 3" at the time you choose to advance.

You choose to advance a model before moving it at all. You roll, add the amount rolled to the movement characteristic, and that is how much you move that phase.

As such, in your example A cannot get the bonus. However both B and C can.

 Stux wrote:
You need to be within 3" at the time you choose to advance.

You choose to advance a model before moving it at all. You roll, add the amount rolled to the movement characteristic, and that is how much you move that phase.

As such, in your example A cannot get the bonus. However both B and C can.

How much you can choose to move that phase. You can declare a unit is advancing and decide not to move it. It still counts as having advanced, however. Otherwise, totally correct.

Pyroalchi wrote:
Hi,

I have a question regarding the Astra Militarum Warlord trait "Implacable Determination".

It reads "When your Warlord and a single friendly unit within 3'' of him advances, they may add 6'' to their move characteristic for that movement phase instead of rolling a dice."
When do I have to choose the additional unit, especially looking at the distance requirement?

I try to attach a picture to illustrate the question at three examples. We have the Warlord in red and three units, A, B and C in blue, none of which has moved so far.
1. A makes his normal move, gets into 3'' of the Warlord and than want's to advance.
2. B is within 3'' of the Warlord, starts its movement phase, gets out of 3'' of the Warlord and then wants to advance
3. B is within 3'' of the Warlord, the WL starts his movement phase, moves/advances. B is no longer within 3'' but was, when the WL declared he wants to move/advance
4. C is outside of 3'' of the Warlord at the beginning of the movement phase. The WL moves/advances and finishes his movement phase within 3'' of C. C is now chosen to move/advance

Which one of A,B,C are legal targets to profit from the WL trait?

"When you pick a unit to move in the Movement phase, you can declare that it will Advance."

You cannot move before advancing. When you pick a unit to move, you must declare at that moment if it will advance. In the case of 1 and 2, you are suggesting that a unit can move and then advance, but this would be an illegal move.

OK, but in example 2, isn't that exactly what I do? I pick model B to start its movement Phase and declare that it will advance. I check if it is within 3'' of the WL and it is, so I can advance 6''?
But it wouldn't when the warlord has already moved as in example 3 and is not in range when I select B to start its movement Phase.

So 2. and 4. should work, 1 and 3 not, right?

Pyroalchi wrote:
OK, but in example 2, isn't that exactly what I do? I pick model B to start its movement Phase and declare that it will advance. I check if it is within 3'' of the WL and it is, so I can advance 6''?
But it wouldn't when the warlord has already moved as in example 3 and is not in range when I select B to start its movement Phase.

So 2. and 4. should work, 1 and 3 not, right?

Correct.

Pyroalchi wrote:
OK, but in example 2, isn't that exactly what I do? I pick model B to start its movement Phase and declare that it will advance. I check if it is within 3'' of the WL and it is, so I can advance 6''?

From the way it is worded, you said "2. B is within 3'' of the Warlord, starts its movement phase, gets out of 3'' of the Warlord and then wants to advance"

That makes it seem like you move the model before you declare the unit is advancing, because you said "gets out of 3'' of the Warlord and then wants to advance"

It just makes it seem like you are moving the model away, and then declaring the advance. Which is not how it works anymore.

Yes, I read the passage on advancing to sloppy and did not have in mind that the advance is declared when you start to move.
You are right that I worded it wrong. Maybe it would have been better to write something like "When B is choosen to move, it is within 3'' of the WL."