Switch Theme:

Eyes  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Anyone got any good links or tips for painting eyes on humans/astartes?

I suck
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan





Bristol, England

With no gallery images it's impossible to give you any critique and hard to pitch any advice.
Seeing as you're a relative newcomer to dakka I'll assume you've not been doing this for too long so I'll keep it simple.

Here's my top 3 or more tips.
1- Practice, plenty of kits come with spare heads, mount some on cocktail sticks, prime a few and prepare to make mistakes.
2- Get good lighting
3- Rest your wrists on the desk whilst painting and exhale as you paint
4- Paint the socket dark/black first then place a dot of white either side rather than having to paint the pupil.
5- Paint the face and eyes first- If you mess up you can strip without undoing all of your work on the model
6- Have fun.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/02/26 19:30:07


Oli: Can I be an orc?
Everyone: No.
Oli: But it fits through the doors, Look! 
   
Made in de
Junior Officer with Laspistol






Regarding the pupil: I so far only painted IG guardsmen and have used a very sharp fineliner to some success.
(Faber Artist Pen XS, https://www.architekturbedarf.de/stifte/fineliner/faber-castell-fineliner/artist-pen-xs---199-schwarz?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzKT48YLw5wIViOd3Ch2XWwt7EAYYASABEgKEmvD_BwE)

Its also useful if you have made tiny mistakes painting the white part and it is just that little bit out of shape that it looks dumb. Often I can "save" that by correcting the outline with the black fineliner. It helps that half of my models have dark skin.

~7510 build and painted
1312 build and painted
1200 
   
Made in gb
The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body





Devon, UK

First off, I don't use pure black or white. This can look very stark, like they're wearing heavy eye liner. Paint the socket a dark brown, or add a small amount of darker shade to your flesh tone, and use an off white (an ivory shade, or I use Vallejo Off White) to describe the shape of the eyeball.

Once this is done, draw a fine line top to bottom where you want the eye to be looking, don't try to dot a pupil in, as if there's white showing above or below the dot it looks like the model has been surprised on the toilet. Pay attention to positioning so it doesn't look like the model is boss eyed. My cheat for this is I use Reaper liner paints, which are very densely pigmented, slightly transparent and relatively thick, as well as being very dark but not completely black.

Paint the eyes very early in the process of doing the face, you can then tidy up the eyes and paint them back into their sockets, rather than relying on a steady hand to create a perfectly shaped eye, you can paint a slightly wonky one and cut in, which is much easier to do.


We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

Ask me about
Barnstaple Slayers Club 
   
Made in gb
Thane of Dol Guldur





Bodt

I use black and white. On a small scale like 40k it helps define them better. On a larger scale you'd use off white.

But yeah, practice, lots of effort and a little luck is the best I can offer you.

Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children

Instagram: nagrakali_love_songs 
   
Made in ca
Fireknife Shas'el






I've tried several methods, but mostly it boils down to putting down the base skin tone first, then painting the eyeball, then cleaning up around the eye and then finishing up the skin. Because if you do the eye last and screw up, you've got to usually fix the skin up a lot more. It's easy to avoid the eye once it's done.

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Annandale, VA

I find eyes to be my critical test of whether a brush can hold a point or not.

I use a Raphael 8404, size 1, for basically everything from basecoating to painting eyes. The size of the brush doesn't matter nearly as much as whether it can hold a good tip.

If you're using synthetics it's an uphill battle.

   
Made in us
The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar





Upstate, New York

Black magic, sorcery, and other forbidden rites.

I paint the white, and add a colored dot to the middle. Avoid whites around the pupil, unless going for the mad and crazy look. I generally then use the skin tone to help clean up my sloppy work and get the eye back into the socket.

Hope they end up looking the same direction.

   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Thanks everyone
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





I do eyes as the very first thing after priming. If I screw up and can't recover it, no other work is lost by stripping it off.

Other than that, well, practice, practice, practice. And a good brush.

CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done. 
   
Made in us
Gargantuan Gargant





Binghamton, NY

With eyes, I generally find that 'less is more.' Stark black and white, trying to cram every detail of a normal eye into a minuscule space, etc. tend to give you the 'crazy eyes' look. Darkening the area around the eye for definition and dotting an off-white over a dark base, as others have described, reads much better, at this scale. Enough contrast that it doesn't look like their eyes are closed or simply unpainted, but not so much that they look like light bulbs.

The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship.
 
   
Made in gb
Thane of Dol Guldur





Bodt

Ooh and don't paint the eyelid as the eye.. That always looks weird.

Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children

Instagram: nagrakali_love_songs 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block





Option 1: Don't bother. Just use a bit of wash to make a shadow. If the model is part of a large group and the eyes are small enough, this is perfectly acceptable for many people.

Option 2: Dark grey/brown wash to make shadow, white eyeball, black pupil. Often results in the perpetually surprised mini. Tip: don't allow white to completely surround the iris.

Option 3: A "simple" method that is more than enough for tabletop standard. e.g. Vince Venturella's tutorial

https://youtu.be/-5s0OGUMV8M

Option 4: Watch Squidmar's video on painting eyes "made easy". He goes into a lot of detail about eyes on larger models, but skip to the end and you can see how he does a simplified version for smaller eyes.

https://youtu.be/9bQkQiMKex0
   
Made in cn
Ship's Officer





Dallas, TX

After done over 1k eyes, I can tell you most people make the iris too small, making the figure Commander eyeballs with the entire iris shown.

First paint the skin tones, then dot the eye socket with black; then white leaving a thin line encircling the white; then dot the iris; then fix the skin around the eyes; flesh wash to blend.

For female makeup around the eyes: you can add a watered down ice blue encircling the eyes.
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Only advice I can give is simple; if you can't do it well...don't do it. Lack of eyes is 149% better than huge googly eyes or terribly painted eyes.
   
 
Forum Index » Painting & Modeling
Go to: