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Relaunch is live, ALL themes available, Pledge level rewards - will be updating as we go but here it is!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/secretweapon/hd-bases-by-secret-weapon-miniatures-0


Secret Weapon has been working on these babies for quite some time, testing, refining, enhancing... and they are about to launch their KS on MARCH 18th -April 8th.

So what are we talking about here?

We are talking about full color, textured 3D prints directly on HIPS bases in just about every size you could ask for. The prints are resilient as hell, and 100% READY TO USE out of the box. You just glue your minis on (or pin even!) as you normally would and that's it, your bases are game ready.

All themes currently ready are available to choose from at launch. Totaling 17 SWM unique designs - The goal with the designs is to do things that are hard to replicate yourself without investing a ton of time and quite likely a lot of skill. Fine line-work, gradients, patterns. All with at least 2-3 levels of UV printed relief, adding amazing texture that is shockingly effective, especially in real life.

I can say this without any reservation, these guys are game changers. The quality is stunning, but the potential to save time is absolutely insane.





In addition to the below 17 themes, we also have 4 Infinity Themes currently prototyping and 2 Zombiecides on the way! We will be using their official graphics to create Infinity HD Bases and Zombiecide board compatible... stay tuned!















Here are the themes added during the KS so far in response to requests from you guys!
















































Another important fact - 100% made in the USA. They will be able to distribute to other markets with partners, but no China plastic shenanigans for this KS!




Remember... this is no sticker....


FAQ Questions in the thread -

Q: How much will they cost?
A: They will be VERY close to the price of an equivalent set of resin bases from SWM. So, for the same price, you get to do NO WORK AT ALL and have incredible looking bases. The KS is ~30% off retail

Q: Are they fragile like Shapeways etc.?
A: They are extremely resilient and hard, being UV cured 3D printing ink, this is a different beast than the powdery and 3D prints you may have had experience with before. You have to go at them pretty hard with something very hard and sharp to put a dent in them. They also will not shatter, you can pin on them too. They bond thoroughly to the base during the printing process.

Q: Are the bases hollow underneath like a regular plastic base?
A: Yes they are, they are in fact, regular HIPS plastic bases just as you know. You can magnetize or weight to your heart's content just as you always have if that is your thing!

Q: How high are they, what do you mean by texture?
A: The prints are texturized, with multiple levels of depth, but they are texture about 1-2mm, not objects sticking out. Think of it like a super emboss, but with a lot more detail and sharpness. It enhances the look as all those edges catch the light and add a huge impression of depth, especially on things like grass, vents and grillwork, bolts, seams on decking, diamond plate... those things are in scale relief and we are emphasizing that kind of application.

Q: What sizes will be available?
A: As of time of writing,

Q: How do I attach my models?
A: Super Glue*, Pinning, Magnets all work just fine. Plastic Glue does not effect the top image, but will effect the base itself, so not too useful. Pinning is no problem at all, you can drill through, even with big bits, and the image does not shatter or deform. You can pin it like it's resin without worry.

*Q: Is there an issue with reaction of glue fogging?
A: The bases do not fog with Superglue (though you will see a shine like always if it spreads out beyond your model), they are not impacted by typical chemicals used like pigment fixer, isopropyl alcohol, matte or gloss varnish, so far, completely stable and non-reactive to everything we have thrown at it.

Size and Pricing





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Edmonton, Alberta

If this is the same full colour 3D printing tech that Shapeways and Hero Forge use, their is a issue with durability and chipping. So seeing that these are more like inserts for a recessed plastic base is very smart.
   
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Thanks! The bases were begging for the treatment -

Should def mention - it's not that shapeways powdery stuff, this is UV ink printing, it is SUPER resilient when cured. Nothing short of aggressively scraping with an exacto or going at it with a drill bit has even dented them. They don't shatter either even when pierced or damaged, they are bonded to the base like dried crazy glue.

There will be videos on the resiliency coming up shortly I believe -but it is definitely a key thing to remember that these aren't inserts or stickers, this is UV printed and cured right into a HIPS plastic base blank. They are truly one object and completely bonded.

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Thanks!

I backed their terrain KS a few years ago, and was quite happy with the results. SWM's resin bases are great, though they take time to paint. I also have their washes, and particularly recommend Stone for underground dungeon terrain. If you're not familiar with their bases, pick up their Bag-o-Crap. It's a pound of resin rejects which, imo, are still quite good for basing.

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They look great, but i got a feeling these will not be cheap
   
Made in ca
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What if I told you a set of bases would cost VERY close or the same as the equivalent resin sizes?

   
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I'd then tell you...

...I'm in!
   
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Texas

Yes, I need these.

I HATE painting bases...

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California the Southern

This has certainly got my curiosity as well, especially if the price is right...

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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Yeah, this strikes my fancy
   
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Riverside, CA USA

Potential dealbreaker - is the bottom/underside of the base completely flat or is there room underneath for a magnet? If it's completely flat then these are useless for me, if it's got room underneath to glue a rare earth magnet I will but the everliving feth out of these

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 Kalamadea wrote:
Potential dealbreaker - is the bottom/underside of the base completely flat or is there room underneath for a magnet? If it's completely flat then these are useless for me, if it's got room underneath to glue a rare earth magnet I will but the everliving feth out of these

It's easy enough to drill a hole for the magnet, if they don't.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Kalamadea wrote:
Potential dealbreaker - is the bottom/underside of the base completely flat or is there room underneath for a magnet? If it's completely flat then these are useless for me, if it's got room underneath to glue a rare earth magnet I will but the everliving feth out of these

It's easy enough to drill a hole for the magnet, if they don't.


Well you are in luck, they are what you would expect from a HIPS plastic base, bottom is hollow

   
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These look absolutely amazing!
   
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Looks great, am intersted to see exactly what sizes and shapes will be on offer but hose cobblestone style ones are perfect for a project I have planned.

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 ingtaer wrote:
Looks great, am intersted to see exactly what sizes and shapes will be on offer but hose cobblestone style ones are perfect for a project I have planned.


A medieval gentlemen club scene?
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
Looks great, am intersted to see exactly what sizes and shapes will be on offer but hose cobblestone style ones are perfect for a project I have planned.


A medieval gentlemen club scene?


Yes. Where gentlemen from all over Europe gathered to have a party in Constantinople because they got lost looking for Jerusalem, called the Fourth Crusade.

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Speaking of medieval meetings in Constantinople... Here is theme #2, Mosaic Burst. It is a bit unusual compared to what we typically see in mini basing themes, but that is because painting this freehand on a squad, much less an army, would be a pretty insane undertaking. This is an example of leveraging the tech to get ourselves something complex in detail and layout, that you can now easily stick a whole army on in an hour. To me, this different than usual aesthetic is very exciting!





Will update OP as well -

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The idea of it is great, but the color choices are pretty terrible IMO.

   
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Sunny SoCal

Believe it or not, based on real middle eastern mosaics. Not to worry, not every theme will be for everyone and this one is definitely a lot further away from traditional than many of the others. By the end of it, if all goes well, there should definitely be something for just about everyone

   
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ingtaer wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
Looks great, am intersted to see exactly what sizes and shapes will be on offer but hose cobblestone style ones are perfect for a project I have planned.


A medieval gentlemen club scene?


Yes. Where gentlemen from all over Europe gathered to have a party in Constantinople because they got lost looking for Jerusalem, called the Fourth Crusade.


Is that where they lost their hose?

MajorTom11 wrote:Believe it or not, based on real middle eastern mosaics. Not to worry, not every theme will be for everyone and this one is definitely a lot further away from traditional than many of the others. By the end of it, if all goes well, there should definitely be something for just about everyone


Challenge accepted!
   
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Those look great, but are all a bit too bright for my purposes. How does the material take to washes/weathering/etc if I wanted to grunge them up?
Specifically wondering about the mosaics and if a simple wash of Seraphim Sepia or maybe one of the Army Painter inks would dull down the colors and make it look old and... well... to put it in the simplest terms - Warhammery.
   
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You could absolutely do that, it is like painting on plastic. Some of them are very rough textured in areas but the tile/mosaic/stone ones will definitely take washes and drybrushing just as you would be used to. Depending on what you are looking for, as is it will run into the recesses very smoothly, if you wan the whole surface of mosaic to grip a wash, you can always give it a really light spray of matte first, or, just a watered down matte coat brushed on with a large brush. Transparent priming. Either way, inking recesses, washing the whole thing, it will take it with a very minimum of fuss, particularly mosaic which is quite smooth but for the seams between the tiles. Industopia is a rougher theme all around in terms of the surface, a lot more going on and micro grunge details -

   
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Will there be lava and glowing rune things?

Both seem to be common bases, but my lava ends up looking like a 3rd grader painted it, and just getting the paint into those tiny runic cracks is a PITA. Forget even trying this OSL stuff.

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Mayyyyyyyybe....

   
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South East London

If there was something similar to Blackstone Fortress style basing I'd be all over these as well....

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This looks very promising. Although I'm not super interested in round bases, would be cool if someone did bases like this for regimental games down the line.
   
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Norristown, PA

This is a really cool idea, but for me I think the only one that looks good is maybe the rocky base with the manhole cover on it.. the others are just too busy looking for me. I think I'd go blind having to look at an army with the mosaic bases.

   
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Is there any example photos or videos on minis glued/pinned to the bases?
   
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Texas

So lets see...I can identify uses for these for damn near all of my unbased minis...Carnivale (Mosaic), SoB (Fleur-de-Lys) Empire of the Dead (Cobblestone) and Aleph (obvious Infinity reference).

All I need to see is something Jungle-ish or Mayan and my Seraphon will be happy.

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