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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 10:26:24
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Regular Dakkanaut
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now I want to admit my rule book hasn't shown up yet (its in the mail), so if this is clearly stated in the book id like to apologize in advance for asking a dumb question.
My Ork force will be lead by a Big Mek in Mega Armour. Id like to put him in a Trukk with 5 Meganobz. Is there some way combining the Big Mek and the Meganobz into a single unit? Having the Meganobz and Big Mek in Mega Armour be a single unit would make life much easier for the purposes of transport, movement, and to keep the Big Mek from getting singled out in the fight phase.
thanks all
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 10:34:40
Subject: Re:a question on HQ models
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Now, charachters can't join squads anymore, however they will be untargetable if any model of your army is closer to the shooter, exception for sniperrifles.
You can also just throw him in with any other squad you might want to transport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 10:48:42
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Norn Queen
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Matt85 wrote:now I want to admit my rule book hasn't shown up yet (its in the mail), so if this is clearly stated in the book id like to apologize in advance for asking a dumb question.
My Ork force will be lead by a Big Mek in Mega Armour. Id like to put him in a Trukk with 5 Meganobz. Is there some way combining the Big Mek and the Meganobz into a single unit? Having the Meganobz and Big Mek in Mega Armour be a single unit would make life much easier for the purposes of transport, movement, and to keep the Big Mek from getting singled out in the fight phase.
thanks all
-Matt
Characters do not join units anymore. However, transports can carry an unlimited number of units, they are only limited on the amount of models they can transport. So you can slap your Mek with Meganobz into a single battlewagon no problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 12:07:43
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Regular Dakkanaut
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that's good to hear that the Big Mek can ride in the transport but at the same time I may need to rethink this strategy.
if my Big Mek goes into close combat along with the 5 Meganobz then what is to say the enemy doesn't focus that entire unit on the Big Mek killing it off.
from the sounds of things, characters should avoid close combat.
-matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 12:09:08
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Norn Queen
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Matt85 wrote:that's good to hear that the Big Mek can ride in the transport but at the same time I may need to rethink this strategy.
if my Big Mek goes into close combat along with the 5 Meganobz then what is to say the enemy doesn't focus that entire unit on the Big Mek killing it off.
from the sounds of things, characters should avoid close combat.
-matt
Physical space. Only models within 1" of the Mek or within 1" of a model within 1" of the Mek can attack the Mek.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 12:34:33
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Yeah, it's often not too difficult to keep a character behind a unit, at least until the unit is killed!
The real thing you should worry about is whether the opponent will be able to wrap around the transport before you disembark, as this can be extremely bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 13:28:32
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Matt85 wrote:that's good to hear that the Big Mek can ride in the transport but at the same time I may need to rethink this strategy.
if my Big Mek goes into close combat along with the 5 Meganobz then what is to say the enemy doesn't focus that entire unit on the Big Mek killing it off.
from the sounds of things, characters should avoid close combat.
-matt
Other models keeping as many models as possible not in b2b or within 1" of model in b2b with mek.
E E E E E E
M N N N N
Here only the 2 leftmost E(enemy) could target the mek(M). Rest are attacking nobz(N).
Not that much different to previous edition either. Not like independent characters back then were untargeatable in melee either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 13:45:01
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Assuming in your diagram that the second enemy from the left is within 1" of the Mek, the 3rd enemy is actually eligible to attack the Mek too. Because you can attack if you are within 1" of a model from the same unit that is within 1" of the enemy.
Apologies if I've misinterpreted your diagram though.
It does mean if the enemy fights in a second rank theyd probably get 6 or more models attacking the Mek though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/29 15:47:03
Subject: Re:a question on HQ models
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Confessor Of Sins
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Styx is correct, but that is what careful placement of models in close combat is about.
Besides, unless the unit in question is actually good on close combat, you want them trying to kill the Mek since he has lots of wounds to soak up the odd point of damage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/03/01 02:47:56
Subject: Re:a question on HQ models
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Regular Dakkanaut
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in my original plan the Big Mek would have "Da Killa Klaw" and "Might is Right".
These would be his modified stats:
M: 5"
WS: 3+
BS: 5+
S: 6
T: 4
W: 5
A: 4
Ld: 8
Save: 2+ (5+ invulnerable against shooting)
Da Killa Klaw:
S: 12 (Sx2)
AP: -3
D: 3
Ability: You can re-roll failed wounds
Kustom Shoota:
Range: 18"
type: Assault 4
S: 4
AP: 0
D: 1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/03/02 09:41:02
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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If it helps, you can download the core rules for free from the GW website before your rulebook arrives:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Warhammer-40000-Rules
It doesn't include things like rules for constructing a Battle-forged army, or how to use stratagems or warlord traits, but it's useful for getting a grasp on how the basics of the rules work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/03/03 10:51:25
Subject: a question on HQ models
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Cheexsta wrote:If it helps, you can download the core rules for free from the GW website before your rulebook arrives:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Warhammer-40000-Rules
It doesn't include things like rules for constructing a Battle-forged army, or how to use stratagems or warlord traits, but it's useful for getting a grasp on how the basics of the rules work.
thank you, ive been using a printed copy of the primer to better understand the new rules.
-matt
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