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I have an Undead Army that I want to sell. I looked at the price list and noticed the skeletons are on their own bases and round. What did people do with their ranked up models when the switch happened? I think it's BS that they did this to people even if the game is better than the old one. People put a good amount of time in painting and basing their models.

Thank you for any help.

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Horrific Hive Tyrant





Honestly, you have to look at it as a brand new game. It's not a new edition of Warhammer Fantasy, its something new.

I'm not saying that makes everything they did ok. It was handled awfully at the time. But the point is, it's not really about the armies that existed before AoS existed. Certainly not now, years into Sigmar. There is still some large cross compatibility between the two games, but many units are retired completely too. It's not the same game.

All that aside, theres a few options:

1. If you play casually, people wont mind the square bases usually.

2. You can get custom made base adaptors where you just slot in the existing base. Check Ebay.

3. You can cut them off the square bases, and get circular bases for the.
   
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Clousseau




I kept playing wtih my square bases for years. However eventually my local area hardlined into you have to use the rounds because thats what the tournaments force you to use, and I moved my square bases to kings of war. Whether or not you can use your square bases still will be entirely dependent on your player base and what they will tolerate in terms of deviation from "official meta" and "tournament rules". I'm sure there are people out there that simply don't care enough to bother making you change your bases, but I'll be honest when I say that the majority of people I encounter want you to stick to the official format as much as possible.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Option 4 - you keep them on square bases and save them for the eventual re-launch of Old World in around 3 years time (gw already announced it and put a Kislev article out yesterday on their community page). Meanwhile you buy a new skeleton army for AoS

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 Overread wrote:
Option 4 - you keep them on square bases and save them for the eventual re-launch of Old World in around 3 years time (gw already announced it and put a Kislev article out yesterday on their community page). Meanwhile you buy a new skeleton army for AoS


Huge caveat here: we have no idea what this game will actually be yet.

We know it's set in the Old World, but that doesnt mean it will be a continuation of WHFB.

Actually, they have suggested square bases will return too. But theres still a big wait and see for me on what it will all mean.

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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 Stux wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Option 4 - you keep them on square bases and save them for the eventual re-launch of Old World in around 3 years time (gw already announced it and put a Kislev article out yesterday on their community page). Meanwhile you buy a new skeleton army for AoS


Huge caveat here: we have no idea what this game will actually be yet.

We know it's set in the Old World, but that doesnt mean it will be a continuation of WHFB.

Actually, they have suggested square bases will return too. But theres still a big wait and see for me on what it will all mean.

Considering this was their teaser prior to the announcement...

Spoiler:

... I would be very surprised if they used round bases!

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Clousseau




With regards to the new game... we know literally nothing solid.

Square bases may be nothing more than square regiment bases where you put your circle based guys in (like war of the ring, or parabellum conquest) - and similar to kings of war where you can literally base your guys on anything you want because the only thing that matters is the rectangle unit tray they are on.
   
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If you're really concerned about square bases vs circular bases buy the adapters. They're super cheap and I believe there is even STLs out there for people to print them on their own 3d printers. I personally prefer the circular bases because the models stand up on their own easier and in my opinion they look better.
   
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I have 5 skeletons on one long square base. It is going to suck trying to get them off to put on a single round base.

This is what is BS.

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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot






Warhammer Fantasy Battles hasn't had unit bases since at least 2000. - when I got into the game

You would have had to switch them to individual bases even back then.

edit - you would be better off playing KoW which I believe uses unit bases. Sorry for the confusion on my part I thought the thread was going more toward WHFB.

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Last time I played you ranked up. I had the ranks of 5 and then the front and back rows were single bases.

That was in 2010 when everyone at the store I was at was still playing the old game.

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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot






I'm definitely no help. I have only seen models as singles; with the caveat that many are in movement trays. Even the singles with round bases have movement trays now. Especially the larger armies.
   
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Clousseau




Actually... there were people that had trash troops on those long bases of 5 guys or so back in 8th edition. I don't remember who produced them but they were often seen on units that had guys die in droves since it was just easier to remove them.

They would glue them on those strips and then just remove the strips and replace with individuals as needed.
   
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Savage Minotaur




Baltimore, Maryland

 auticus wrote:
Actually... there were people that had trash troops on those long bases of 5 guys or so back in 8th edition. I don't remember who produced them but they were often seen on units that had guys die in droves since it was just easier to remove them.

They would glue them on those strips and then just remove the strips and replace with individuals as needed.


GW did. I still have them.

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That must have been a pain to store. When did GW stop making them?

I only have anecdotal evidence that GW hasn't made that type of base since 2000. Never the less. If a gamer makes their own base and puts models on them not according to how the model comes in the box is it really a blight on the company? Seems like a reach.

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Gathering the Informations.

They were selling those regimental bases(which is what they called them) up until something like 2006 or 2007, when they started selling movement trays that you could cut to fit and that had a 'lip' attached to the sides.

Unit fillers were a thing they encouraged right up until AoS.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Yeah it was something that stopped me ever making a skaven army then - the fact that you needed dozens of skaven slaves to just put on a base and then basically spend the rest of the time removing from the game as chaff.


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Hm. Learn something new everyday. I still would try to sell them to someone who plays KoW. You wouldn't have to rebase them.
   
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Fixture of Dakka




NE Ohio, USA

MJThurston wrote:
I have an Undead Army that I want to sell. I looked at the price list and noticed the skeletons are on their own bases and round. What did people do with their ranked up models when the switch happened? I think it's BS that they did this to people even if the game is better than the old one. People put a good amount of time in painting and basing their models.

Thank you for any help.


No one that I know bothered to rebase anything.

1) Because we're not worried about the tourney scene.
2) We still play real WHFB from time to time so square/rectangle bases are still needed.
   
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander





Only the most diehard AoS fanboys and some hardline tournaments will have a problem with square bases. If it's the former you're better off not playing them anyway and if it's the latter you'd probably be playing an AoS 'exclusive' army instead regardless.

As has been said, WHFB is coming back in two-three years, so in the long-term you might as well keep to Squares. If they're glued in as ranks then maybe use some tokens to put behind them as casualty markers until you get rid of the row

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Gathering the Informations.

We literally know nothing about how Warhammer: The Old World is going to work. The square thing is speculation, at best, right now.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

Speculation based on the photo of a square base being the first photo issued by GW when announcing it.

If anything if it uses formations then base shape is almost irrelevant since movement trays become the norm in that form of gaming very fast. So square or round so long are they are not too large, you can put them on a tray to move in formation.

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Charing Cold One Knight





Sticksville, Texas

Try looking into a game called Dragon Rampant. It will let you use all your old models, and square or round basing doesn't matter.
   
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Florence, KY

 Overread wrote:
Speculation based on the photo of a square base being the first photo issued by GW when announcing it.

And not just photos...



... almost every time they mention The Old World they emphasize square bases.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

And they also make it a joke, by saying that things are "coming round again".
   
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Clousseau




Exactly. Which means nobody has any idea except the devs what this new thing looks like.

I still think its a square movement regiment tray where you put your rounds in.

Which fits all of the puns above.
   
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Florence, KY

 Kanluwen wrote:
And they also make it a joke, by saying that things are "coming round again".

Which is why I said I would be surprised if it wasn't on square bases (instead of it will be) but if they do go with round bases I would expect a major backlash from the WHFB die-hards who expect to be able to play their old armies on square bases on day one...

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander





 Kanluwen wrote:
We literally know nothing about how Warhammer: The Old World is going to work. The square thing is speculation, at best, right now.


I keep seeing this but I honestly don't know why people keep trying to make this point for any reason than to sound condescending.

They showed off a square base, they're explicitly bringing back the Old World, they've gone so far as to compare it to Horus Heresy (which is the scale scale as 40k). They probably didn't mention "Yes this is literally 9th edition WHFB" because they knew that's where everybody's head would go.

They have pretty much no reason to return the game on round bases as opposed to using the resources on more AoS models. "But what if it's just the setting" doesn't work either because there's Legends for that kind of thing, nor would they need three years for that.

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Florence, KY

 Arbitrator wrote:
... they've gone so far as to compare it to Horus Heresy....

Which is set in the past of the 40K setting, just like The Old World will be set in the past of the Age of Sigmar setting.

All we know is the setting and a rough idea of the 'when' within' it. Everything else is an unknown.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Horrific Hive Tyrant





 Arbitrator wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
We literally know nothing about how Warhammer: The Old World is going to work. The square thing is speculation, at best, right now.


I keep seeing this but I honestly don't know why people keep trying to make this point for any reason than to sound condescending.

They showed off a square base, they're explicitly bringing back the Old World, they've gone so far as to compare it to Horus Heresy (which is the scale scale as 40k). They probably didn't mention "Yes this is literally 9th edition WHFB" because they knew that's where everybody's head would go.

They have pretty much no reason to return the game on round bases as opposed to using the resources on more AoS models. "But what if it's just the setting" doesn't work either because there's Legends for that kind of thing, nor would they need three years for that.


Still some massive assumptions in here.

While its certainly POSSIBLE its Horus Heresy for Sigmar, theres so many other things it could be.

Even if it is a full size battle game (which it might not be, could be skirmish scale).
Even if it's the same scale models (which it might not be, could epic/inquisitor/something else).

Even then, it doesnt mean any models from WHFB will be compatible with it.

We just dont know.
   
 
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