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Well met Jarls

I need advice for the upcoming battle.
The idea is a pack of blood claws and hunters ride in the rhino's.
Arjac and terminators mount the raider.
The intercessors hunt but considering stalker rifles with the long fangs.
Long fangs supported by the terminatior wolf priest using Morkai’s teeth.
The transports, dreads and njal advance up staying just in range of the Rune Priest storm caller and cloaked by the storm while transports poping smoke (-2 to get hit, - 3 for 1 target within range of njals tempest and +1 armour).
I don't use jump packs.
But other wise all advice and questions welcome

Jarl Johnson

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [62 PL, 9CP, 964pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Arjac Rockfist [7 PL, 110pts]

Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 1CP, 181pts]: Heavy flamer, Helfrost cannon

+ Troops +

Blood Claws [4 PL, 69pts]
. 4x Blood Claw: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Power fist

Blood Claws [4 PL, 69pts]
. 4x Blood Claw: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Power fist

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Pack Leader: Chainsword

+ Elites +

Murderfang [9 PL, 125pts]

Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour [13 PL, 191pts]
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Wolf Claw (Pair)
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Power fist, Storm shield
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

+ Dedicated Transport +

Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [23 PL, 4CP, 390pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ Stratagems +

Trophies of Fenris [-1CP]: Trophies of Fenris - 1 Extra Relic

+ HQ +

Rune Priest [6 PL, 97pts]: 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Runic armour, Runic axe

Wolf Priest [5 PL, 72pts]: Bolt pistol, Saga of the Wolfkin, The Wulfen Stone, Warlord

+ Troops +

Grey Hunters [4 PL, 76pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power axe
. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

Grey Hunters [4 PL, 76pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power axe
. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun

Grey Hunters [4 PL, 69pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist
. 4x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [39 PL, 1CP, 646pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Wolf Priest in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 92pts]: Storm bolter, Morkai’s teeth.

+ Heavy Support +

Land Raider Crusader [17 PL, 264pts]: 2x Hurricane bolter, Twin assault cannon

Long Fangs [8 PL, 145pts]
. Long Fang: Heavy bolter
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword
. . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol

Long Fangs [8 PL, 145pts]
. Long Fang: Heavy bolter
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword
. . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol

++ Total: [124 PL, 14CP, 2,000pts] ++

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As good a way as any to get your guys into combat. I'd consider a few points though, firstly, Long Fangs work much more efficiently when they are mono purpose, I run mine with 5 lascannons and 5 missile launchers. Looks like you're running them with the options available out of the kit. I'd group up the lascannons and stick the MLs and HBs into one squad. At least them your MLs can fire frag when targetting infantry and the HBs can make use of the strategem to do MWs.

The Helfrost cannon really isn't that great. It can do both AT and AI roles but it does both poorly. On Bjorn you want a LC or an AC, make use of his BS.

The rest looks fine, consider power fists on your sergeants, the +1 to hit on the charge really makes them good for wolves.

 LynxSarnage wrote:
As good a way as any to get your guys into combat. I'd consider a few points though, firstly, Long Fangs work much more efficiently when they are mono purpose, I run mine with 5 lascannons and 5 missile launchers. Looks like you're running them with the options available out of the kit. I'd group up the lascannons and stick the MLs and HBs into one squad. At least them your MLs can fire frag when targetting infantry and the HBs can make use of the strategem to do MWs.

The Helfrost cannon really isn't that great. It can do both AT and AI roles but it does both poorly. On Bjorn you want a LC or an AC, make use of his BS.

The rest looks fine, consider power fists on your sergeants, the +1 to hit on the charge really makes them good for wolves.

Thank you for your great feedback
I consider the fangs to be anti tank and use hellfire on the heavy bolter to harm tanks and as a cheaper second pick for casualties. Was using single units of lascannon and heavy bolters (with an assault cannon terminator wgpl) but they would just target the lascannon killing them in 1 turn so I hoped this would increase redundancy. Think that will be ok? Im yet to test them spread out and I also have a unit of hellblasters i could include.
Yeah the helfrost wasn't expected to fire since bjorn would be advancing but i do have twin lascannons in it atm.
I have 4 lists im considering here is another that could be better?


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [89 PL, 9CP, 1,430pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Arjac Rockfist [7 PL, 110pts]

Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 1CP, 204pts]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon

+ Troops +

Grey Hunters [4 PL, 65pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power axe
. 4x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

Grey Hunters [4 PL, 64pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power sword
. 4x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades

Grey Hunters [7 PL, 117pts]: 4x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist
. 3x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt pistol, Meltagun
. Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader: Power fist, Storm bolter

+ Elites +

Murderfang [9 PL, 125pts]

Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour [13 PL, 191pts]
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Power fist, Storm shield
. Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour: Wolf Claw (Pair)
. Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

+ Heavy Support +

Land Raider Crusader [17 PL, 264pts]: 2x Hurricane bolter, Twin assault cannon

Long Fangs [8 PL, 145pts]
. Long Fang: Heavy bolter
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword
. . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol

Long Fangs [8 PL, 145pts]
. Long Fang: Heavy bolter
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Chainsword
. . Boltgun and Bolt Pistol

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [33 PL, 5CP, 566pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Njal Stormcaller [7 PL, 115pts]: 2. Tempest's Wrath, 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, 5. Storm Caller

Wolf Lord [5 PL, 93pts]: Power fist, Saga of the Wolfkin, Storm shield, The Wulfen Stone, Warlord

+ Troops +

Blood Claws [4 PL, 69pts]
. 4x Blood Claw: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Power fist

Blood Claws [4 PL, 69pts]
. 4x Blood Claw: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Power fist

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 86pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle
. 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Pack Leader: Chainsword

+ Dedicated Transport +

Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

Rhino [4 PL, 67pts]: Storm bolter

++ Total: [122 PL, 14CP, 1,996pts] ++

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Looks pretty good. I'd consider looking into getting the new Ragnar too if you could edge the points for him. He's going to be a real power house. That said you don't need to, this list would likely work well.

Your list seems good. I might try it myself.

 LynxSarnage wrote:
Looks pretty good. I'd consider looking into getting the new Ragnar too if you could edge the points for him. He's going to be a real power house. That said you don't need to, this list would likely work well.

Were i a rich boy i would get ragnar just because
Think the second list is better than the first?


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 Khornate25 wrote:
Your list seems good. I might try it myself.

Be my guest let me know how it does