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First Post!

I'm looking to put together a Dark Mechanicum-ish list that's still, at least reasonably, competitive. Just thought I'd post what I've come up with and see if anyone had any suggestions. Any feedback is REALLY appreciated. Thanks!


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [60 PL, 10CP, 954pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

Legion: Black Legion

+ HQ +

Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 2CP, 210pts]: Warlord

Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 160pts]: Autocannon, No Chaos Mark
. Helstalker: Techno-virus injector

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: No Chaos Mark
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Heavy Support +

Defiler [9 PL, 142pts]: Defiler scourge, No Chaos Mark, Reaper autocannon

Defiler [9 PL, 142pts]: Defiler scourge, No Chaos Mark, Reaper autocannon

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [9 PL, 140pts]: Baleflamer, No Chaos Mark

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [31 PL, 5CP, 540pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Troops +

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 50pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Chaos Sigil: Autogun, Chaos Sigil
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun: 8x Frag grenade

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 50pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Chaos Sigil: Autogun, Chaos Sigil
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun: 8x Frag grenade

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 50pts]
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun
. Renegade Militia w/ Chaos Sigil: Autogun, Chaos Sigil
. 8x Renegade Militia with Autogun: 8x Frag grenade

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [6 PL, 110pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy bolter, Storm bolter

Wyverns [5 PL, 115pts]
. Wyvern: Heavy bolter, Storm bolter

Wyverns [5 PL, 115pts]
. Wyvern: Heavy bolter, Storm bolter

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Knights) [25 PL, 501pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Knight Despoiler [25 PL, 501pts]: Heavy stubber, Infernal Household, Ironstorm Missile Pod
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer

++ Total: [116 PL, 15CP, 1,995pts] ++

Hey thanks for posting this list. I've had the thought of bringing artillery with my chaos as well and I think it's an interesting idea because chaos doesn't have those kind of options elsewhere.

From the looks of it, your list looks like a gun line with some heavy firepower and range, combined with quite a bit of bodies to be used as a meatshield. Then you've got some counter assault options in the form of Abaddon and defilers.

The problem is that if you sit back and shoot, other gunline type armies will out shoot you. Astra militarum will have more artillery and more guns, knight armies will have more knights.. etc. You are making up for the lack of firepower with tons of bodies, and some close combat potential in the form of Abaddon and defilers. The problem is how are you going to get them into combat? Against an army that wants to fight in close combat, this might work. But against purely shooty armies you'll have trouble because all your bodies and close combat guys won't be effective, and you'll have less guns.

I'd recommend finding a way to deepstrike Abaddon with 10 terminators with combi bolters and chain axes. That way they can deepstrike for a reasonable price, do some dmg, and can't be ignored. Renegade militia squads are terrible. I'd suggest just bringing three artillery and one hq for a spearhead detachment.

Abaddon deepstriking with 10 terminators, a lord discordant running up the field with two defilers, three artillery pieces, and a despoiler would be a terrifying list. Fill the rest with cultists and see what happens.

If you really don't want to do terminators, say, you already have tons of cultists. You could try running a maximum sized squad of cultists and cast warptime on it and run them straight forward with Abaddon. You'd have to tweak your list quite a bit to pull that off though and fit a sorcerer in somewhere.

You could drop one of your Cultist units to buy each of your Militias a Mortar, and the other 3 Cultists a Heavy Stubber, each.

No idea if it's any good but it's cool as hell.