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Hello,

After being away from the hobby I have returned and took an interest in World Eater CSM.

I haven't purchased any models so I want to build a list that will scale to larger games. I know that this is not an innovative list but from what I have read and watched it seems like a solid foundation.

Please find the list below any insight you can provide would be appreciated.

Battalion Detachment +5CP

HQ - 151 pts


Exalted Champion - Warlord, Violent Urgency, Brass Collar of Borghaster, 2x Lightning Claw


Exalted Champion - Chainaxe, Chainsword


Troops - 505


Khorne Berzerkers - 8 x Chainsword and Chainaxe, Icon of Wrath

Berzerker Champion - Chainaxe, Powerfist


Khorne Berzerkers - 8 x Chainsword and Chainaxe, Icon of Wrath

Berzerker Champion - Chainaxe, Powerfist


Khorne Berzerkers - 9 x Chainsword and Chainaxe, Icon of Wrath

Berzerker Champion - Chainaxe, Powerfist


Heavy Support - 142 pts


Defiler - Defiler scourge, Reaper autocannon


Dedicated Transport - 201 pts


Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter


Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter


Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter

Lightning claws with an exalted champion is redundant. Both have the ability to re-roll wounds. You'd be better off swapping out that champ with a chaos lord, give him a power axe and upgrade it to one of the relic weapons. You can give the other character the brass collar.

Otherwise looks like a fine 1000pt army

I was going to say something about the lightning claws too, the math says paired LCs are only better than a Powerfist on a model that has only a single base attack, and that's only true when LCs get the to-wound rerolls and the PF doesn't.

Thank you both for the feedback I swapped out the Exalted Champion with the lightning claws and added in a Chaos Lord with a Chainsword and Chainaxe, upgrading the Chainaxe to Gorefather.

Curious - what's your plan for the Defiler? You may be able to put those points to better use. Otherwise looks like a decent list for World Eaters.

At a 1000pts, its only role is a distraction carnifex and its set up for mellee. Its gotta charge up the field with the rhino's. Either you shoot it or a transport, bezerkers can't be ignored, and a defiler shouldn't be ignored either.

It could be replaced with a venom crawler, heldrake, forge fiend, mauler fiend. If its not enough of a distraction, for 1cp, the army can be stuffed into a soulforged detachment, so that for another 1cp, the defiler could advance and charge on the same turn. Not sure how worthwhile that is.

As Sazzlefrats mentioned the idea is to either get the berzerkers at close to full strength in cc and have the defiler taken out or lose a healthy amount of berzerkers but have a relatively healthy defiler.

After playing world eaters for a very very long time, I'll share with you my thoughts.

Berzerkers are in a really great place right now. I think 3 8 man squads with 3 rhinos can probably be your core for any world eater list.

Many HQ combinations are great. Exalted champ and lord are great for buffs. Kharn is a beast. Daemon prince is excellent this edition too. Hard to go wrong here.

Strategically, most armies will try and either gun you down before you get to them, and/or they will kite you with superior maneuverability. I think there are primarily two ways to deal with this-
1) go overboard on close combat and try and flood the enemy with so many fast close combat units that they can't kill enough before you get into combat.
2) bring heavy hitting support options to cripple your opponent's mobile units so that your berzerkers can clean up the mess.

You can achieve option 1) by going with lord discordant, maulerfiends, and your defiler would benefit from this. Without going heavy on the demon engine type list, my opinion is that the defiler is a bit lackluster.

Option 2) can be achieved in tons of ways. You can bring obliterators, havocs, x10 terminators with combi-bolters for 40 bolter shots on deepstrike, hellforged deredeo dreadnoughts from forgeworld are the current 'internet gun support platform', you can also ally renegade knights to give you the firepower you need to get berzerkers into combat. Personally, I have a thing for forgeworld Moirax.

At 1000 points, I think the defiler isn't the best choice since you need ranged firepower to increase the effectiveness of your berzerkers. While the defiler offers some, there are more effective options that can do the role better.