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I'm trying to paint up my Reapers in a mix of Crematorian and Ivory Host colours, however I've a few problems

1) A lot of the Crematorian colour schemes use yellows, oranges and reds to get the colour in the gaps in the bone. They then mostly focus on drybrushing over the top so that the rest of the skeletal model gains a black colour without it going into the cracks. Now that's fine for a darker colour, but I'm after a lighter colouration and going for that Ivory Host appearance. I'm wondering what method you'd advise to achieve this whilst retaining the brighter inner flame colours in the cracks

2) Besides small fine detail brushes and practice are there any general tips for getting variation in colour in tiny cracks for the fire effect?

3) I'm at a loss for finding a good Ivory Host colour for the bone itself. Aiming for a more amber bone colour with ambery pools in the depressions. I've tried Iyadren Yellow, but its got a very reddy dark tone to it, rather than amber. Whilst its also perhaps a bit too strong in yellow when painted over some other colours. So I'm after a sort of soft white to yellowy amber warm colouration over the bone.



Note right now the GW website is being a pain and crashing when trying to search so I'll have to edit in some photos later for those who might not know the two schemes.

If you put a bright colour in the crevices, then a light colour on your raised sections, you're going to white out your model with a lack of contrast... If you want internal fire or light on a model, you need a dark outer surface to show this, or it will just look weird. You can still do this, but your fire needs to be super bright, and your bone colour needs to be dark, like a tan tone at the brightest. You essentially have to do reverse highlighting. So your darkest areas are at the outermost areas of the models. If you're using yellow flames, I'd try and get some indigo purples glazed into your dark areas too.

I'm not really familiar with the faction schemes you mention, so maybe but up some sample imagery and I could give better advice.

I did worry about the contrast over the model, though I'd still like to experiment and see where it leads me.

At the very least one of the two colours would be core to the army so I've still got to have a working approach.

The GW site was acting up earlier, but it seems to have cooled off
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/24/ossiarch-bonereapers-the-sub-factionsgw-homepage-post-1/

The skeleton colour I'd like to emulate for the majority of the bone
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/OBRSubFactions-Oct24-IrovyHost7svd.jpg

The inner flame colour
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/OBRSubFactions-Oct24-cretorians8sdfd.jpg


Sadly GW has really dropped the ball with Ossiarchs, there isn't even one on their painting app.

I'd think you are after something more like a yellow ochre color. I'm not really up on GW colors these days, but for Vallejo, maybe something between Flat Yellow and Yellow Ochre?

Yeah see the one with the flame has very dark outer areas, whereas the one without doesn't. They're basically polar opposites, so if you mix them you're going to get a weird unworkable neutral, in my opinion that is. I think you may need to pick one here.

Contrast is an issue, but can be worked around. Candles look fine with a flame and that's a pale white to red to fire colour. I could always add a little black edge to the raised areas around the exposed inner fire.

However is the ivory colour that's really proving hard to create.

true, but candles usually have a dark background for the flame and the wax