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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 03:37:30
Subject: Need help identifying old minis
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Hi, I have recently unburied my Warhammer 40k collection and am looking for help identifying some of the old minis I purchased. Some of the minis in question I bought online, but the main body of my questions pertains to a small collection I bought at an antique store. Since a lot of my focus is on collecting a varied army, I put more focus on different things that could still be used in Warhammer, but are not necessarily Warhammer pieces. Now I'm hoping to find out what some of those old pieces actually are. A few pieces I know are actually 40k but I haven't been able to figure out the name of the blister or set they came from are. This is mostly for my own archival purposes so that I can know what I have, but I'm also really curious just what my younger self was spending money on. ![](/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif) I do have a general idea of what everything is supposed to be in terms of 40K use, but any help is appreciated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 03:43:25
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The bottom pics are of the old Rhino, you appear to have identified everything else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 04:03:38
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ingtaer wrote:The bottom pics are of the old Rhino, you appear to have identified everything else?
That's an old Rhino? I didn't realize that there were actual vehicle models in the early Editions. Would that be 2nd or 3rd? Was that available to the entire Imperium in those editions? Also, there are the unknown models pics in the middle that I assume were used as Storm Troopers. They have a slightly smaller size than modern 40k models and don't seem to use the Heroic scale. They also have a pseudo Samurai appearance to their armor. Other than those, are all the old models actually GW? Some of the old commissars seem odd, like the ones wearing ties. xD If they are all GW though, could you help me date them at all? If those Old Guardsmen are actually GW, wouldn't that make them 2nd Edition, or even Rouge Trader? What about the Commissars on square bases? Also, I've looked around but I can't find out what set or blister the Standard Bearer and crouching Commissar came from. Do you happen to know? Lastly, do you know what's up with the Guardsmen conversions that appear to be wearing WW1 Brodies or even their medieval English infantry helm inspiration?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 04:38:35
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The original rhino kit was released in Rogue Trader, and lasted up until the new kit was released in 3rd or 4th edition, although it had a couple of accessory sprue updates and some metal/plastic hybrid variants (razorback, predator, whirlwind and vindicator, and the SOB tanks) added along the way. And yes, on RT the rhino was available to pretty much everyone (including orks, squats and eldar) because it was the first vehicle kit GW made and they wanted it to sell. 2nd edition restricted it to Space Marines, Inquisition and Sisters (maybe Squats, can't remember for sure) and added the Chimera for Guard.
The samurai-looking guys are likely Warmachine minis, but not 100% sure on that.
The Commissars are Rogue Trader-era, other than the guy with the green sword, who was from the 2nd edition batch. Not sure about the guy with the tie... I haven't seen it before, but I suspect it's a GW head and arms on a Copplestone body of some sort. Haven't seen the crouching one before either. Likely a conversion.
The standard bearer is a limited edition model, released in the Cadian Army Box in 2003.
The 'brodies' are heads from WHFB Brettonian infantry on Cadians.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 05:11:27
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The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.
If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 05:48:55
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insaniak wrote:The original rhino kit was released in Rogue Trader, and lasted up until the new kit was released in 3rd or 4th edition, although it had a couple of accessory sprue updates and some metal/plastic hybrid variants (razorback, predator, whirlwind and vindicator, and the SOB tanks) added along the way. And yes, on RT the rhino was available to pretty much everyone (including orks, squats and eldar) because it was the first vehicle kit GW made and they wanted it to sell. 2nd edition restricted it to Space Marines, Inquisition and Sisters (maybe Squats, can't remember for sure) and added the Chimera for Guard.
The samurai-looking guys are likely Warmachine minis, but not 100% sure on that.
The Commissars are Rogue Trader-era, other than the guy with the green sword, who was from the 2nd edition batch. Not sure about the guy with the tie... I haven't seen it before, but I suspect it's a GW head and arms on a Copplestone body of some sort. Haven't seen the crouching one before either. Likely a conversion.
The standard bearer is a limited edition model, released in the Cadian Army Box in 2003.
The 'brodies' are heads from WHFB Brettonian infantry on Cadians.
Wow! Thank you so much for all the info. I never would have guessed that old collection I bought at an antique store would have included multiple Rouge Trader Rhinos. For a lover of the older models like myself, that's super exciting! It's also cool to confirm my suspicions about the older Commissars being Rouge Trader. I've included new pics of the two with ties to help figure them out, but what I can tell you is that a closer inspection of them reveals that the head and body are one piece, with only the arms as separate parts. However, the two have exactly the same arms and the gun on the one is probably added while the sword is definitely added and is plastic. I believe the Bolt Pistol to also be plastic based on touch temperature, but I can't tell for sure. Also, both are on GW bases and the square base is marked 1984 like the other three Rouge Trader Commissars he came with. Square base one also has the typical metal insert (that would likely tell me what I want to know if it wasn't glued in), but the round base one does not. The crouching one appears to be one solid piece with a metal insert into the base, and while both weapons appear to be original, the Plasma Pistol may be a conversion. His base however is not marked by the maker. I have included further pictures of him as well.
Thank you for the info on the Standard Bearer and the converted Guardsmen. They certainly look cool with those helms, but I can't imagine personally buying a box of Brettonian Infantry just for the heads. xD
In the meantime, I have found a few more vehicles from the same collection as the Rhinos, but these one I highly doubt are GW as one has a battery compartment on bottom and moving wheels while the others have 1997 GTI on the underside. I've included pictures nonetheless. I'm still finding more things as I unpack boxes of my stuff, so I may have more pieces to ask about in the future. Automatically Appended Next Post: MacPhail wrote:The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.
If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm
Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 06:47:36
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The Commisars with ties are exactly that, they were metal bodies with plastic arms, released in June 1989 product code 401313.
No idea on the crouch one though.
Those tanks are Cold War era by the looks, think both Soviet? the one on the right is certainly from the BTR family. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nah, got it. The tracked one is a Galoob battle squads APC and is supposed to be an M113.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 07:10:49
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ingtaer wrote:The Commisars with ties are exactly that, they were metal bodies with plastic arms, released in June 1989 product code 401313.
No idea on the crouch one though.
Those tanks are Cold War era by the looks, think both Soviet? the one on the right is certainly from the BTR family.
Thanks for clearing up the two guys with ties. I'm gonna have a hard time not thinking about Commissars wearing business casual under their coats and armor now. ![](/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif) The tanks aren't terribly surprising. Probably very common in the late 80s/early 90s. Delving deep into the old GW catalogs has revealed to me that I seem to have a nearly complete set of the original metal Guardsmen (or possibly multiple sets), with the only obvious exception being the dead one. As for the crouching Commissar, he may forever be a mystery... Or someone will see this and immediately recognize him in the next day or so. ![](/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif) The Rhinos I have are of particular interest to me though, since Imperial Guard, or Astra Millitarum as they are now known, always need more vehicles. And those vehicles are very expensive in the numbers they field them. I could probably get away with using the APC/IFV conversions as Chimeras or Hellhounds in a friendly match, but what can I do with the old Rhinos? Are they still officially legal since they are legitimate GW products? Whether or not they are, I'm not sure what I would even do with them outside of a SM or CSM army. Can anyone else use Rhinos? If I wanted to use them as Chimeras, that should work in friendly games too.
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You can still use the Rhinos as Rhinos, the only people who might complain are those to young to remember he kit and think you are not using GW models, when informed that they are indeed RT GW most people reaction is "oh, cool".
I think Inquisition and Sisters of Battle can also use Rhinos, but am not a 40k player so am not certain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 07:30:53
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ingtaer wrote:You can still use the Rhinos as Rhinos, the only people who might complain are those to young to remember he kit and think you are not using GW models, when informed that they are indeed RT GW most people reaction is "oh, cool".
I think Inquisition and Sisters of Battle can also use Rhinos, but am not a 40k player so am not certain.
Ah right, I knew I was forgetting someone. The SoB should be able to use it as whatever variation they have. The Inquisition can really use any Imperial Unit or Vehicle. Something along the lines of, "Hey you, are you loyal to our Lord and Savior the God Emperor?" IF YES: "Good, you are now under my command." IF NO: "DIE FOUL HERETIC!" *starts blasting* xD To be fair, the only differences with the SoB is that they don't have that level of authority and their response to NO would be, "BURN IN THE CLENSING FLAMES OF THE EMPEROR!" *starts dousing with flamer*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/05/07 12:52:01
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
MacPhail wrote:The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.
If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm
Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.
Third from left in the front row is from some other kit, maybe non- GW... I don't recognize it. The weapons sprue in the 36x plastic Guard box had all las weapons... those long-barreled lasguns on the far right, a couple of las pistols, and a shoulder-mounted las cannon. There were other heavy weapons available in metal blister packs, but las was the order of the day (and conversion beamers, and webbers, and other oddities long gone). Those plasma guns were both sourced from other kits of different eras... the bulbous one looks like what 2nd ed. Marines carried, and the one in the back was more modern (but not much). So whoever built these has a bit of a bits box and playing for advantage, or at least diversity, by converting up a few troopers.
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The one on the left is a Amtrak or AAPV, modern amphibious US APC. We were just talking about that exact vehicle in the historical models thread.
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MacPhail wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
MacPhail wrote:The guy with the tie has the boots, stance, and head of a lot of the 2nd ed Commissars and Officers, so I bet he's at least part GW. A lot of those plastics are from the old 36-model Imperial Guard box from around '89 or so... my first Warhammer purchase! Really fun collection for sure.
If you really want to have some fun and dig deep, there's a huge archive of classic models here: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/catindex.htm
Thanks, I'll definitely be looking through that in my spare time! The guys with the ties give me a weird feeling because if not for the tie itself, I would never have questioned them more than the rest. Other than that tie, they fully look the part of Commissar. Who knows, maybe a plain shirt and tie is what GW has always pictures under the Commissars breastplates. xD You mentioned recognizing some of the plastic models as part of an old box set. Can you give me an idea of the weapons the front right three are holding? I can tell that the guys third from left are both holding Plasma guns, with the front one being original, and I believe that the big shoulder cannons are original Missile Launchers (I first assumed they were Autocannons, but the metal Guardsmen on the far left of the third row is holding a gun that more closely resembles one), but the third from right in the front row ha me confused. It looks kinda like it could be a Lasgun, but so do the two to his right. On a side note, it was a bit interesting sorting them out because I could only tell the difference between the metal and plastic ones by weight and touch temperature.
Third from left in the front row is from some other kit, maybe non- GW... I don't recognize it. The weapons sprue in the 36x plastic Guard box had all las weapons... those long-barreled lasguns on the far right, a couple of las pistols, and a shoulder-mounted las cannon. There were other heavy weapons available in metal blister packs, but las was the order of the day (and conversion beamers, and webbers, and other oddities long gone). Those plasma guns were both sourced from other kits of different eras... the bulbous one looks like what 2nd ed. Marines carried, and the one in the back was more modern (but not much). So whoever built these has a bit of a bits box and playing for advantage, or at least diversity, by converting up a few troopers.
Thank you, it's very interesting to learn more about the evolution of WH40k models since I love the games universe and history. It is especially interesting to hear about the old weapons that are no longer cannon, like the Beamers and Webbers. I have mixed feelings about all the conversions across editions however, as part of me is a purist collector that wants them all to have original bits for maximum value and vintage coolness even if I don't intend to sell anytime in the foreseeable future, while another part of me is a player that loves the variety of options and style offered by the game, as allowing such customization is part of what drew me into the game in the first place. I do find myself wondering where all the extra pieces ended up though, because this person obviously has played from at least 2ndEd into 4thEd and must have had a lot of it lying around as I do now. That single collection about doubled the pieces I own and I already have an entire container of old pill bottles holding extra bits. xD Automatically Appended Next Post: Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The one on the left is a Amtrak or AAPV, modern amphibious US APC. We were just talking about that exact vehicle in the historical models thread.
Very cool! What are the odds that they would come up at the same time? xD I do recall noticing that one of the two had little boat propellers on each side of the back, and the back hatch could swing down like most 40k APCs. Now that you've said it, it really does have an amphibious vehicle look that I just somehow never put together with the propellers. Thanks for the info on what it is. Hopefully most friendly games will let me use them as the Chimera they were probably converted to play. Automatically Appended Next Post: So, the only ones left without proper identification are the crouching Commissar and the Samurai styled minis. It has been suggested that the Samurai styled minis may be from a game called Warmachine, but not confirmed. I've found another set of ten minis I don't immediately recognize and will get some pictures of those up later. I also found what I've identified to be a mixed and incomplete Vostroyan/Valhallan HQ squad with thrown in Snipers and a Fleet Officer, which is odd but cool. Luckily, I could kinda guess what I was looking at with those and a simple google image search confirmed it. I've also found my Codices, which seem to include two 4thEd and even a 3rdEd which shows some of those old Rhinos alongside a modern looking Land Raider and Leman Russ. Those are pretty cool, though I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share pictures of those here or not.
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Bah, I did say Warmachine... I meant Warzone. Apparently I had a 'senior moment'... They're definitely not Warmachine.
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insaniak wrote:Bah, I did say Warmachine... I meant Warzone. Apparently I had a 'senior moment'... They're definitely not Warmachine.
Ha! It's perfectly fine. We all have those moments where we mean one thing and say similar sounding but very different thing. So Warzone, huh? I've heard of Warmachine before, but not Warzone to my knowledge. I might do some digging cuz those are some really cool minis in my opinion.
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Won an auction including a number of models, some of which I wasn't able to identify. They haven't arrived yet, so I cropped the auction picture to focus on what I'm interested in finding out.
In the first crop, I know the guy in blue is a new Tempestus Scion, but I don't know the other three. The two small ones I believe to be some kind of Auspecs or Augers, but no idea what they're from. The old guy with a staff looks like a wizard or psyker of some kind. The second crop shows some kind of short model, probably a dwarf because it doesn't look like a GW Squat, and what I believe to be an old Necromunda ganger. There's a few of each in the lot, but the other red dwarf-like models are carrying guns two of which look like old Lewis with a top mounted round drum. For the last crop I'm fairly certain I know what that model is and if I am correct I am going to be one very happy IG commissar collector. ![](/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif) The picture isn't a great one, but it's probably why I didn't have any competition on the auction. If anyone is interested, I'll post the whole lot picture later with some better photos once they arrive. Until then, any info on the models in question is appreciated.
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The Wheeled vehicle looks like a Russian BTR-90
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First picture - Looks like a kitbashed servo-skull, then there's an old IG Primaris Psyker.
Second picture - front is an old Necromunda Orlock ganger.
Last picture - old Games Day Exclusive female IG Commissar.
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I think the dwarfs might be older Mantic Forge Fathers, but difficult to tell from the photo. These are no longer available AFAIK, found some pics on a blog tho: https://geekandgarden.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/forge-father-stormrage-veterans-thoughts-and-review/
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beast_gts wrote:First picture - Looks like a kitbashed servo-skull, then there's an old IG Primaris Psyker. Second picture - front is an old Necromunda Orlock ganger. Last picture - old Games Day Exclusive female IG Commissar. Right, servo-skull is what I was thinking, just couldn't remember the name for some reason. I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc. As I said for the guy in front, I figured he was an old Necromunda model so thanks for identifying him as Orlock. The rest like him probably are too. AS for the Commissar, that's exactly what I'm thinking that is too. This lot was a steal if everything is as I believe it to be. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Yup! Took one glance at that photo and it's definitely them. Two have the guns as described, the other is one with the other type of gun. Not sure what I'll do with those guys. I suppose I could probably run them as a regular IG Veterans team if I wanted to use them in friendly games. Squats are at least verifiably cannon again thanks to the new Necromunda including models of them.
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SergentSilver wrote: I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc.
Nope - they've been called Primaris Psykers since the 90s - (the ones before that were called Sanctioned Psykers in Rogue Trader)
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beast_gts wrote:SergentSilver wrote: I didn't realize there was an old Primaris Psyker. I thought the term "Primaris" came with the switch to Astra Militarum, Primaris Marines, etc. Nope - they've been called Primaris Psykers since the 90s - (the ones before that were called Sanctioned Psykers in Rogue Trader) Very cool! I guess I always knew them as Sanctioned Psykers from DoW: DC. Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.
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SergentSilver wrote:Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.
Funnily enough he's sat on my desk right now! He started life as an Inquisitorial (Daemonhunters) Henchman, and was later re-labelled as a Preacher (with eviscerator chansword). Automatically Appended Next Post:
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beast_gts wrote:SergentSilver wrote:Speaking of, I think I just found a model for the old IG Preacher as it resembles the ones in games, but it's being sold as a SoB model.
Funnily enough he's sat on my desk right now! He started life as an Inquisitorial (Daemonhunters) Henchman, and was later re-labelled as a Preacher (with eviscerator chansword).
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Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/ SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess.
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SergentSilver wrote:Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/ SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess. There's a bunch of similar models called priests, preachers & missionaries that are shared by a few Imperial armies. Some started out as Inquisitorial Henchmen whereas others were originally specific to certain armies.
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beast_gts wrote:SergentSilver wrote:Lol That's quite a coincidence! So is he the old IG Priest or was that unit always the same as the Inquisition/ SoB unit? I looked through all three of my old IG Codices (4th, 5th, and 6th Ed) and only saw one example of the Priest unit. It was in the 4thEd book and it was just a SoB Missionary model. I never really looked into getting one because I always liked Commissars, so I don't know that the IG ever had an official Priest model. Given that Stormtroopers were shared by IG, SoB, and Inquisition armies, it wouldn't much surprise me if the SoB Missionary was used as the IG Ministorum Priest I guess.
There's a bunch of similar models called priests, preachers & missionaries that are shared by a few Imperial armies. Some started out as Inquisitorial Henchmen whereas others were originally specific to certain armies.
Alright, I guess I should just look for a variety if they all count the same. No sense limiting myself to 5 Priests that all look the same when I can use most any Ecclesiarchy model. Might even get one of the archpriest models to use if I want to attach one to my main HQ.
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Some of the "priests" and acolytes figures go back to the 2nd ed SoB and Frateris Militia days.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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chromedog wrote:Some of the "priests" and acolytes figures go back to the 2nd ed SoB and Frateris Militia days.
I noticed some of them while scouring the SoL pages for an IG Priest model. I'll probably try to get my hands on one each of those for use.
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Oooh. Those Daemon Hunter henchemen!
I'd love to get my hands on some of them. Never seen any for sale anywhere.
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I recall seeing them when Daemonhunters (3rd ed) was a new thing.
I had some old RT & 2nd ed models I used for a few of them instead.
The daemonhunter 1&3 bodies were more or less interchangeable for the add-ons, too. They were randomly packed. So you could get the same body with a sword and the other with the book.
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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
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