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Running a Primaris Imperial Fist army and theres like 100000 options for everything i do and coming from Ad-Mech its overwhelming, so a little help would just be AMAZING!
1. I'm running 2 Tactical Invictor Warsuit and 1 Redemptor Dread. I want to try out the Invictor Warsuits so i do have 2 more Red-Dreads on the side lines. What i want to know is do i run an Incendium Cannon or Twin Ironhail Auto-Cannons? It's gonna be 2 warsuits + a squad of infiltrators.
2.I'm throwing in a Primaris Ancient into my list and wanted to know if he's worth the points. I've seen a few games where the 4+ is rolled a lot especially on something like a Hellblaster, but not too sure if he's all that worth it?
3. I'm stuck on Litany of Faith or Recitation of Focus. Having a 5+ FNP or +1 to hit both seem good. Only running 1 chaplan. Should i run two?
4.Primaris Chapter Master - I used the stratagem to make a person a chapter master, but can't find any models online for "Primaris Chapter Master" as it just pulls up things like Tor Garadon or the other chapters chapter masters is there even a model?
5.I want a Land Raider to swap in and swap out, but theres like what 5 different kinds with varying guns n gak, I'll probably just magnitize the gak out of it, but wanted to know if theres any REAL difference between them?

Again any help is appreciated love you guys!

1) I prefer the Flamer, to allow it to move and shoot effectively without penalties. You want to use that fist.

2) Depends how many models he's affecting, really.

3) There's a strat in one of the PA books that lets you use two Litanies on one model. Though do note the 5+ FNP only applies to Mortal Wounds.

4) Nope. It's just any captain, upgraded with the strat.

5) The gun load-out only. Also, they cannot carry Primaris models, far as I know.

Thanks and I'm not using the Land Raider to carry primaris models its literally just a Rule of Cool thing. I just think anyone that runs a Space Marines army needs a Land Raider of some kind. And for 4. could you give me a good captain model to use or would i be better juust sort of Kit-Bashing? and 2. I'm running 5 five man groups of intercessors and plan on him being near atleast 2 groups.

1. I can’t speak form personal experience, as I don’t own either of those units (don’t like the looks). So I’ll toss out some general advice. What does your list need more of? Anti tank, horde clearing, what? IMHO looking at the stats, both these units lean towards being better for spamming low S shots for clearing chaff/troop stuff, but if they are the only platforms in your list where you can get some S7 firepower, you do what you need to do. A lot of marine units are like that. You can gear them up to fill different roles, some better then others, but you have the option. So there is a lot of flex in list building around how you make those calls.

2. In a gunline style list where there is a lot of infantry around him, he acts like a force multiplier. He boosts your firepower, in a way that lets you squeeze a little out even if you get alpha stuck. Overall,efficency is going to depend who’s around him. Hard to make a call in a vacuum. Might be worth proxy and playtest.

3. Chaplains generally get a bad rep in 8th. You have a chance of your buff failing. I love the guys, and take one occasionally for fun. But I’d not take 2. Stick with more reliable buffs (captain/LTs)

4. No models, just take a captain and give him the best paintjob you got. Maybe an extra purity seal. The option is there so chapters without a named special character can still have their Chapter Masters.

5. This is a big question. Especially if you are counting 5, you are going into the FW ones. The LRR/LRC are more battlefield taxies, moving up and needing to get close. Which in 8th is a little bit of an issue, as if a grot manages to put a boot on your bumper, you need to fall back and not shoot the next round. Of course, getting into CC they need to deal with overwatch, with is not nothing, particularly the LRR. What units do you need to get to the frontlines? Is it worth it to buy an expensive tank to do so? Can you get better firepower elsewhere? The classic Phobos pattern with the 2xTLLC Godhammers is easier to screen and sit back shooting. Still has to worry about being stuck in CC, but can project fire downrange from the relative safety of your backfield. In a meta where people need to be concerned with taking down (multiple) imperial knights, the durability of the LR is not what is used to be. In less competitive metas, it can still have a place, but just be careful with them.

Rahdok wrote:
Thanks and I'm not using the Land Raider to carry primaris models its literally just a Rule of Cool thing. I just think anyone that runs a Space Marines army needs a Land Raider of some kind. And for 4. could you give me a good captain model to use or would i be better juust sort of Kit-Bashing? and 2. I'm running 5 five man groups of intercessors and plan on him being near atleast 2 groups.

In that case, you might want to check for FW Land Raiders. Some of them have extra gun. (But, do note there's gonna be new FW Indecs soon.)

An Ancient near Intercessors... Is not worth it. They've got small arms fire-you should have plenty of that. A little more is unlikely to be worth it.

Primaris Captain on the GW Webstore. There's also a Gravis Captain, but my god. The GW Webstore has the worst search ever.

Thanks you guys! and Yes its does have the worst search function ever. It's just tooo vague


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The List seems I've built seems to rely pretty heavily on the intercessors to do the carrying, but I could see the list struggling against things like Titans, I might throw some stuff around and drop in some Hellblasters.

Rahdok wrote:
Thanks you guys! and Yes its does have the worst search function ever. It's just tooo vague

Here's the biggest issue:

If I use the search tag "Primaris" I get all Primaris models.
If I add "Character" and "HQ", I get all Primaris models, all Character models, and all HQ models. NOT all models that are Primaris Character HQs.

It's so bad!

YES and i think thats why i was sooo confused. It kept giving my things from like other chapters/armies and i was like "I can use that?"

Rahdok wrote:
1. I'm running 2 Tactical Invictor Warsuit and 1 Redemptor Dread. I want to try out the Invictor Warsuits so i do have 2 more Red-Dreads on the side lines. What i want to know is do i run an Incendium Cannon or Twin Ironhail Auto-Cannons? It's gonna be 2 warsuits + a squad of infiltrators.

I would actually favour the autocannons on the Warsuits. It makes them more flexible and helps you to make better use of them if you don't know whether you are going first or second. The Incendium Warsuit is great if you get the first turn but risky if you are going second.

The Autocannon suit can be set up aggressively if you are going first but can be set up more defensively if you are going second. It is not quite as powerful as the Incendium cannon variant but less subject to the gamble of first turn.