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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot





At what point can you no longer use strategems that have to be used "Before the battle"?

Are they used at list creation?
Before any dice are rolled for pre-game conditions?
After deployment before the first movement phase begins?

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Longtime Dakkanaut





EDIT: Nevermind, Ghaz has the quote from the FAQ

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/05/13 13:57:27


 
   
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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

From the Main Rulebook FAQ:

Q: Certain abilities and Stratagems are used ‘before the battle’. When specifically is this?

A: The game begins when players start the Deployment step of a mission – all abilities and Stratagems that are used ‘before the battle’ must be used before then.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot





So is rolling for deployment the start of the deployment step or is the first model being placed the start of the deployment step?

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Norn Queen






 Aftersong wrote:
So is rolling for deployment the start of the deployment step or is the first model being placed the start of the deployment step?
Assuming you're using the CA19 missions, you roll for who is the attacker and the defender at the start of the deployment step and then the defender rolls to see which deployment zone is used.

In any case, the point where you roll to see which deployment zone is used is well too late to use "before the battle" stratagems.

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Confessor Of Sins





Tacoma, WA, USA

The rules for each Scenario have a Deployment section. When you start using that, you are no longer before the battle.
   
 
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