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+++ Chaos (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [109 PL, 1,762pts] +++

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [46 PL, 718pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Master of Possession [5 PL, 88pts]: Cursed Earth, Force stave, Mutated Invigoration, No Chaos Mark

Master of Possession [5 PL, 88pts]: Force stave, Infernal Power, Mutated Invigoration, No Chaos Mark

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [20 PL, 302pts]: Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Chainaxe, Combi-bolter
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power maul
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power maul
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe

Greater Possessed [8 PL, 120pts]
. Greater Possessed: Mark of Khorne
. Greater Possessed: Mark of Khorne

Greater Possessed [8 PL, 120pts]
. Greater Possessed: Mark of Khorne
. Greater Possessed: Mark of Khorne

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [63 PL, 1,044pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Lord Discordant on Helstalker [9 PL, 160pts]: 2. Daemonsmith, Autocannon, Mark of Khorne, Techno-venomous Mechatendrils, Warlord
. Helstalker: Techno-virus injector

+ Troops +

Chaos Space Marines [8 PL, 137pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Chainaxe, Plasma pistol
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. 4x Marine w/ Chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Autocannon
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [8 PL, 137pts]: Mark of Khorne
. Aspiring Champion: Chainaxe, Plasma pistol
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. 4x Marine w/ Chainsword: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Autocannon
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Heavy Support +

Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 2x Obliterator: 2x Crushing fists, 2x Fleshmetal guns

Obliterators [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 2x Obliterator: 2x Crushing fists, 2x Fleshmetal guns

Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Khorne

Venomcrawler [7 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Khorne

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I brought 2 starter sets 2 terminator boxes and Lord Discordant on 1st may.
any ideas to bring it up to 2k or replace any under performing models, (I dont like cultist)

Hi Chaosspawnking,

What's your plan with this army? I can see the venomcrawlers running with the discolord, and I can see oblits and termies deep-striking in while the CSM camp on objectives, but I can't see what the Masters of Possession and greater possessed add - they won't keep up with the venomcrawlers, and if your Daemon engines get destroyed then all these characters become exposed and very vulnerable.

First things first, CSM are CP-hungry, so you'll need a battalion. Split one of those CSM squads into two squads of five so that you have three squads, and fit those into a Battalion with the MoPs.
Secondly, I'd run one of those MoPs as a Sorcerer to grant you access to Dark Hereticus powers - your list wants warptime and possibly prescience.

Thirdly, why Mark of Khorne? It doesn't really offer you any benefits in terms of opening up useful stratagems - Iron Warriors tens to work well with a lot of firepower. Mark of Slaanesh and Endless Cacophony will work better to allow a unit to fire twice - prime target would be your termies, or maybe the oblits. Better to treat the termies as a deep-striking shooting threat - even with a re-roll the number of times you make that 9" charge can be depressingly few.

Fourthly, your obliterators would work better as a single squad of three - that way they derive greater benefit from the Iron Warriors stratagem to allow them full re-rolls on the stats of their fleshmetal guns - I would field a spearhead detachment comprising two venomcrawlers, one unit of oblits, and a discolord.

These are just thoughts on how to make the most of what you've got - I'd need to have a bit more of a think before suggesting what else to add to bring it up to 2000pts. I'm still not sure what's the best use for your greater possessed - normally you'd field them to run a big blob or two of regular possessed, but there are better legions to run that type of list - if you want to stick with Iron Warriors you should stick to your strengths - I.e. an overabundance of firepower!

Hi Drakeslayer

this army list was designed to use every model I had.
I was thinking maybe another starter set then I could go with 2 units of 3 obliterators , 3 venom crawlers and 3 x 5 man CSM with autocannons to provide covering fire. this will also let me form a chosen squad with the 3 plasma guns if its worth it.
the plan with the greater possessed and the MoPs were to go with the obliterators as a Daemon Marine blob, but that was because I forgot that obliterators can deep strike.
The MoPs are there to add HQ's but if I can use them as either sorcerers or priests I think that would be better.


They haven't been painted yet so which chapter to use is up for discussion, I just fought it would fit with the theme of daemon engines. I might go with slaanesh then as as you have pointed out it would be better synergy.