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With the PA for Chaos Demons right around the corner, what do you think will be their big rewards? Will it be custom traits? Relics? Psychic powers? All of them?

I'm of the opinion that we'll probably see a little bit of everything (relics, WL traits, psychic powers, etc.) but only one for each god, meaning it won't actually amount to that much new content whatsoever.

Don't want to be negative - and hope to be wrong but I think you are getting 2 pages of *something* under "Infinite Forms of Corruption" - which may be alternate loci, maybe rules for mixing gods in detachments.

Then two pages of stratagems.

Then Exalted Daemon Princes, which are likely to be akin to Marine "Big Chaplain", "Big Apothecary" etc.

It seems very unlikely they would get new psychic disciplines, warlord traits, relics etc, as this would be listed as "new Daemon psychic disciplines" etc.

Oh I wasn't even aware of the fact that they already had page numbers and names out! Honestly, that's still quite a bit to dedicate to Demons, seeing as how they're contending with Knights of both flavors /and/ Admechs mega release all in one book.

Literally anything that makes Demons more playable outside of being CSM allies would be fantastic.

Randomized buffs because "haha chaos is fickle ;DDDDD"

 vaklor4 wrote:
Oh I wasn't even aware of the fact that they already had page numbers and names out! Honestly, that's still quite a bit to dedicate to Demons, seeing as how they're contending with Knights of both flavors /and/ Admechs mega release all in one book.

Literally anything that makes Demons more playable outside of being CSM allies would be fantastic.

Yeah the issue is alot of it is just datasheet reprinted from CA, as CA doesn't make the jump to 9th while PA books do

Tyel wrote:
Don't want to be negative - and hope to be wrong but I think you are getting 2 pages of *something* under "Infinite Forms of Corruption" - which may be alternate loci, maybe rules for mixing gods in detachments.

Then two pages of stratagems.

Then Exalted Daemon Princes, which are likely to be akin to Marine "Big Chaplain", "Big Apothecary" etc.

It seems very unlikely they would get new psychic disciplines, warlord traits, relics etc, as this would be listed as "new Daemon psychic disciplines" etc.

I could see exaulted demon princes being reserved fgor high powered demon princes such as belkaor, demon primarchs etc. basicly demon princes who are a step above mere deamon princes

Ice_can wrote:
Yeah the issue is alot of it is just datasheet reprinted from CA, as CA doesn't make the jump to 9th while PA books do

CA changes every year. If they didn't print them in PA and there would be no 9th ed guess what happens in 2020 december? The daemon things in CA goes OOP.

tneva82 wrote:

Ice_can wrote:
Yeah the issue is alot of it is just datasheet reprinted from CA, as CA doesn't make the jump to 9th while PA books do

CA changes every year. If they didn't print them in PA and there would be no 9th ed guess what happens in 2020 december? The daemon things in CA goes OOP.

I agree thatbwas what i was getting at all be ut poorly, I just suspect a lot of people are going to be super disappointed when they find that the demon part of PA is realy only like 2-3 pages of actual new rules, instead of the 15 it appears to be at first glance.

Its 12 pages of actual rules, split among 4 gods, 3 pages for each god. 2 pages are for the exalted greater daemons, which leaves 1 page for new rules like stratagems, loci, etc...... The rest is reprinted datasheets.

Ice_can wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Ice_can wrote:
Yeah the issue is alot of it is just datasheet reprinted from CA, as CA doesn't make the jump to 9th while PA books do

CA changes every year. If they didn't print them in PA and there would be no 9th ed guess what happens in 2020 december? The daemon things in CA goes OOP.

I agree thatbwas what i was getting at all be ut poorly, I just suspect a lot of people are going to be super disappointed when they find that the demon part of PA is realy only like 2-3 pages of actual new rules, instead of the 15 it appears to be at first glance.

Well it looks to be about 12 pages or so. Albeit 8 of those are for exalted greater daemons that likely contain some fluff text as well.

That's assuming the 2 pages before datasheets are not rules.

But yeah datasheets are just copy&paste. But then again that's same for most of the loyalist supplements. "blood angels got 30+ page!". Well yeah. And lion share of that was datasheets they already could use...They are just put into one supplement so they don't need to buy own codex+marine codex+PA.

BrianDavion wrote:
I could see exaulted demon princes being reserved fgor high powered demon princes such as belkaor, demon primarchs etc. basicly demon princes who are a step above mere deamon princes

Yeah sorry - posting too quickly late at night.
Its exalted greater daemons not daemon princes.
Which leads some to wonder if they are going to hard-sell the forgeworld models, but I think that's unlikely.
I suspect this will just be a way to unlock certain abilities on a specific Keeper of Secrets etc. You might get 2 such abilities as they are giving 2 pages each - but they might also just have a big glossy picture of said greater daemon.