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This is how I imagined auras could change - one unit in the bubble gets the benefit. There was already some of this, but this is the kind of aura that I would have envisioned as a bubble rather than a single unit.

This outlines the purpose of the command phase as well.

What do you think? A sign of things to come or just a nothing burger? Should marine rerolls go away?

Don't do that,,, don't give us hope...

This is likely a big nothingburger, at least in terms of "ALL THE AURAS GO AWAY!". AdMech for Engine War(which was called out as designed for 9E) got a stratagem for shutting down auras with the flyer.

This is closer to an "Orders" mechanic than anything else.

Honestly if they just changed the wording from units to models and stuck ""completely" before "within" it would solve a lot of problems. Warmachine has done auras for years with no issue, I don't see why GW has such an issue with them.

Yeah I was hoping/speculating this also.

You mean people wouldn't tightly pack their entire army around one dude? Imagine...

The admech flier will still have its role for shuting down that aura so its not like it will become irrelevant day 1.

If I was a betting man I would bet they will do exactly this but then creep back up to current level of: re-roll everything for everyone within 9" .

But lets have hope this is a positive change.
It would sort of make sense with the change to modifier stacking and terrain. Re-rolls have absolutely made the game nonsensical in a lot of instances...

 Sim-Life wrote:
Honestly if they just changed the wording from units to models and stuck ""completely" before "within" it would solve a lot of problems. Warmachine has done auras for years with no issue, I don't see why GW has such an issue with them.

AoS does wholly within for it's auras as well.

Although it would make Vox Scream pointless I would welcome this change.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Although it would make Vox Scream pointless I would welcome this change.

Would it be pointless or just less usefull as the aura itself will be less good.

A re-roll hits for a unit within 6" is certainly worse then re-roll hits for all units within 6".

If re-rolls become much scarcer as a resource would the shutting down of said aura not also go up in value ?

 Argive wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Although it would make Vox Scream pointless I would welcome this change.

Would it be pointless or just less usefull as the aura itself will be less good.

A re-roll hits for a unit within 6" is certainly worse then re-roll hits for all units within 6".

If re-rolls become much scarcer as a resource would the shutting down of said aura not also go up in value ?

Hmmm. Maybe. But my point was that even if it would hurt Night Lords by nerfing one of our best strategems I wouldn't care. Auras need to go away. That's one of the reasons I love the strategem so much.

The other is seeing the frustration on loyalist marines players faces when their chapter master becomes useless.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
This is how I imagined auras could change - one unit in the bubble gets the benefit. There was already some of this, but this is the kind of aura that I would have envisioned as a bubble rather than a single unit.

This outlines the purpose of the command phase as well.

What do you think? A sign of things to come or just a nothing burger? Should marine rerolls go away?

Don't Necrons already have single target buffs rather than auras, like My Will Be Done?

Could be worse.... in Killteam activating auras for your Commanders cost you CPs.

If all bubbles turn to MWBD style "select a unit" then that would do a lot to keep MSU in check and give you a reason to use hordes even with the threat of blast. I think it's unlikely that's what's happening here though, and as Dread said it's just one of the factions that already has this weaker mechanic getting it again.

I'm voting "nothing burger". It will just be another of GW's "These are the rules, but this unit ignores them, but that unit ignores that this unit ignores them" type of rules. I am hopeful, but it's probably just an isolated incident ...

GW debuffing marines? As if.

Seeing as DG are getting a reroll 1’s bubble strat for LoCs in their PA the answer is no.

Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

 Arachnofiend wrote:
If all bubbles turn to MWBD style "select a unit" then that would do a lot to keep MSU in check and give you a reason to use hordes even with the threat of blast. I think it's unlikely that's what's happening here though, and as Dread said it's just one of the factions that already has this weaker mechanic getting it again.

I agree and choose to remain optimistic.

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

They previewed a stratagem for the grav devastators. Maybe auras mechanic will be curbed...

Im sort of surprised but not surprised they didin't really preview anything.. not really. They sort of confirmed whats not being dropped for marines apart from primaris bikes and some token pistol.

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

It doesn't indicate much.

Just says this:

Tony: I would be remiss to not also include at least one Primaris Lieutenant to provide a generous helping of re-rolls* to the army.

That doesn't have to mean multiple units. Still, the DG example might kill the idea:

Emissary of Nurgle: Reroll Hits of 1 for attacks of friendly DG units within 6″ of this model.

There could still be a 'matched play' limitation. Normal games you get full bubbles. In matched play you get to pick one unit - two or three to Abaddon or w/e. But this is just spit balling on a long shot that I don't even know if it would work well.

 Argive wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

They previewed a stratagem for the grav devastators. Maybe auras mechanic will be curbed...

Im sort of surprised but not surprised they didin't really preview anything.. not really. They sort of confirmed whats not being dropped for marines apart from primaris bikes and some token pistol.

Gravitic Amplification wasn't a preview - it was just reprinting a strategem from the old Marine Codex for those that forgot about it.

 Asmodai wrote:

 Argive wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

They previewed a stratagem for the grav devastators. Maybe auras mechanic will be curbed...

Im sort of surprised but not surprised they didin't really preview anything.. not really. They sort of confirmed whats not being dropped for marines apart from primaris bikes and some token pistol.

Gravitic Amplification wasn't a preview - it was just reprinting a strategem from the old Marine Codex for those that forgot about it.

Like i just said confirming stuff not being dropped.. AKA reprinting exisiting stuff.
Seems like they need to sell out all those drop pods and devastators before they get replaced with primaris stuff.

Looks more like other armies are going to have both auras and units that buff one or two units.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Could be worse.... in Killteam activating auras for your Commanders cost you CPs.

That's not uncommon in 40K (outside Marines) either.

Harlequins pay 2 CP to upgrade their Troupe Master with a basic Marine-Captain-bubble.

Craftworld pay 2 CP to gain a basic Marine-Lieutenant bubble around a Farseer for a phase.

etc...

 Daedalus81 wrote:
This is how I imagined auras could change - one unit in the bubble gets the benefit. There was already some of this, but this is the kind of aura that I would have envisioned as a bubble rather than a single unit.

This outlines the purpose of the command phase as well.

What do you think? A sign of things to come or just a nothing burger? Should marine rerolls go away?

Abilities like this already exist in the game. Weird extrapolation to make tbh.

 Argive wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

They previewed a stratagem for the grav devastators. Maybe auras mechanic will be curbed...

Im sort of surprised but not surprised they didin't really preview anything.. not really. They sort of confirmed whats not being dropped for marines apart from primaris bikes and some token pistol.

And that's relevant...how? Considering they also mentioned the reroll's their characters have and how lietnaunts for example are so essential to provide those rr1's to wound.

Single-target buffs instead of auras already was a Necron army theme. Nothing to see here.

 Corrode wrote:

Abilities like this already exist in the game. Weird extrapolation to make tbh.

I know - noted as much. The interaction in the command phase interested me though.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Corrode wrote:

Abilities like this already exist in the game. Weird extrapolation to make tbh.

I know - noted as much. The interaction in the command phase interested me though.

They specifically stated that the Command Phase is where a lot of stuff would be required to get 'activated' would be early on.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the marine focus indicates strongly marine reroll aura's aren't going anvwhere

It doesn't indicate much.

Just says this:

Tony: I would be remiss to not also include at least one Primaris Lieutenant to provide a generous helping of re-rolls* to the army.

That doesn't have to mean multiple units. Still, the DG example might kill the idea:

Emissary of Nurgle: Reroll Hits of 1 for attacks of friendly DG units within 6″ of this model.

There could still be a 'matched play' limitation. Normal games you get full bubbles. In matched play you get to pick one unit - two or three to Abaddon or w/e. But this is just spit balling on a long shot that I don't even know if it would work well.

TBF that doesn't really mean anything, since in Engine War which is being released like 3 seconds before 9th drops we have numerous examples of mechanics we know will be going away in 9th.

One of the special canticles grants move and fire heavy weapons, for example.