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I am having trouble understanding the regimental rules regarding Tempestor Primes and voice of command. The Codex for Astra Militarum seems to state that Militarum Tempestus is a regiment, but The Greater Good book introduces Tempestus regiments, but doesn't replace the Militarum Tempestus Regiment keyword as far as I understand.

So can a Tempestor Prime of one Tempestus Regiment give an order to an infantry of another Tempestus Regiment since they are in the same Militarum Tempestus "regiment" or do the new Tempestus Regiment s supersede that?

My goal is two have two tempestus detachments, one focused on valkyries and one on Tauroxes. I would like two commandnsquads in the valkyries, but I don't need the second prime with them, so I would like to stick him in a Taurox with the ground crew if he can give orders to them.

mcmuffinfluffin wrote:
I am having trouble understanding the regimental rules regarding Tempestor Primes and voice of command. The Codex for Astra Militarum seems to state that Militarum Tempestus is a regiment, but The Greater Good book introduces Tempestus regiments, but doesn't replace the Militarum Tempestus Regiment keyword as far as I understand.

So can a Tempestor Prime of one Tempestus Regiment give an order to an infantry of another Tempestus Regiment since they are in the same Militarum Tempestus "regiment" or do the new Tempestus Regiment s supersede that?

My goal is two have two tempestus detachments, one focused on valkyries and one on Tauroxes. I would like two commandnsquads in the valkyries, but I don't need the second prime with them, so I would like to stick him in a Taurox with the ground crew if he can give orders to them.

That is correct, the officiers can order any MILITARUM TEMPESTUS INFANTRY unit regardless of <TEMPESTUS REGIMENT> choice.

Units with the MILITARUM TEMPESTUS keyword treat this as their <REGIMENT> keyword in all respects, but the MILITARUM TEMPESTUS keyword cannot be used to replace the <REGIMENT> keyword on any other datasheet.

This unit may issue one order per turn to the soldiers under their command at the start of their Shooting phase. Orders may only be issued to INFANTRY units within 6" of this unit that have the same
<REGIMENT> keyword as this unit. To issue an order, pick a target unit and choose which order you wish to issue from the table below. A unit may only be affected by one order per turn.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
That is correct, the officiers can order any MILITARUM TEMPESTUS INFANTRY unit regardless of <TEMPESTUS REGIMENT> choice.

Units with the MILITARUM TEMPESTUS keyword treat this as their <REGIMENT> keyword in all respects, but the MILITARUM TEMPESTUS keyword cannot be used to replace the <REGIMENT> keyword on any other datasheet.

This unit may issue one order per turn to the soldiers under their command at the start of their Shooting phase. Orders may only be issued to INFANTRY units within 6" of this unit that have the same
<REGIMENT> keyword as this unit. To issue an order, pick a target unit and choose which order you wish to issue from the table below. A unit may only be affected by one order per turn.

Great! Thank you for the quick response. I am glad my force idea can work!

At least until 9th edition charges me CP for that second detachment, but I will have to wait and see for the full details on how that will pan out.

If it helps at all, I use 2 detachments of lambda lions in my own list -- but one of them is respec'd on the fly to be a drop stormtroopers group for a cp.

If you set it up that way, you can use the whole group as lambda (meaining sisters of battle are TERRIFIED of you, a horde with ap-3 and 3+bs!) or you can split. Battalion A brings the valkyrie (or 2 or 3) and command squads for dropping, and battalion B brings along more troops and your tauroxes (they are pretty cool with ap -1 on the gatling guns, fyi, another lambda lions effect. Not perfect, but pretty good.)

I would make sure to keep at least two tempestors in the drop group casue you really benefit from the detachment if you are putting multiple squads into short range from a valkyrie, and remember you could, in theory, turn the entire list into stormdrooptroops. But that owuld lose you the ap-1 on the tauroxes, which is worth if you plan to bring significany scion armor on the ground.

My own list is
batt A .. plasma scions drop group, scions, valkyries and 3 primes + 3 command squads. In an optimal turn, this group gets around 50 plasma shots to hit the enemy. Not to be fired, but to hit, and in some cases, reroll ALL wounds.
batt B psykers and more scions, configured as lambda lions. They deepstrike -- but in your hands, this gets the tauroxes. Even 10 simple scions are terrifying when their are s3/-3/1 shooters and an order has them shoot 4 times each. Few primaris enjoy that bath.
batt C cadian artillery battalion.

Why lambdas? Ap-1 on the tauroxes is solid .. missles, autocannon, and gatling cannon will all perform better.
Lambda lions refractor generator (relic) gives all the lambdas around it a 5++ shield, and the lambda warlord gives all thelambdas aroudn him a reroll 1. So if you don't want to play stormtrooper, you end up with a quite solid little force of plasma shooting guys with the reroll 1's covered, and you can issue other orders (like elimination protocol) to reroll lots and lots of wounds. Also remember your melee infantry is ap-1 now, so its not the joke that marines usually take tanking gaurd infantry to be. The relic, well, in lambda hands,its been consistant that reroll 1's without an order really makes scion strike teams "pop", freeing you to either ALSO frfsrf or elimination procotols.

This should work even in next edition, you will lose a couple cp for a second battalion is all, but since you start with all lambda lions, you can synergize everythign with the same relics, stratagems, and auras, on those days you feel like its too much cp to designate stormtroopers on battalion "valkyries".