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Hi all,

Please see the building picture, as you see it has a big doorway. My question is, if there is an infantry unit standing in front of the doorway, can they be shot or is this considered our of LOS because the building is over 5 inches tall? If they are considered to be out of LOS, can they move through the doorway or is the doorway treated as a wall?
Thanks!

YMDC forum would be more appropriate I think. Good luck.

It's hard to tell what is part of that terrain and what it looks like behind this perspective. You have to define what is included with your opponent.

If they're in between the statues and you agreed the statues are not part of that terrain piece then they would not be obscured. If they're just on the other side of the door they can be seen.

If they're beyond the far side then they can't be seen.

Terrain like this would also be breachable (as in they can move through it) for INFANTRY, SWARM, and BEAST models.

I'd say put a base under the terrain (just a cutout with a way for the terrain to sit on it) to make it easier to see where the boundaries of terrain like that are.

For your question. If they're in the building, within an 1", you should refer to the related terrain rule. Which is Obscuring, I believe. I dunno, still learning them too.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
Hi all,

Please see the building picture, as you see it has a big doorway. My question is, if there is an infantry unit standing in front of the doorway, can they be shot or is this considered our of LOS because the building is over 5 inches tall? If they are considered to be out of LOS, can they move through the doorway or is the doorway treated as a wall?
Thanks!

I believe that thing would be a ruins, which would be obscuring.
Page 82 in CA: GT Mission Pack or Page 260-261 in the Big Rule Book require you to agree upon a footprint for the terrain piece with your opponent.

Then, as per obscuring, models that cannot have a 1mm wide line of sight traced to any point of them that does not pass over the terrain piece's area are out of LoS, and models that are on or within the terrain feature can be targeted normally.

Thus, independent of whether you draw the footprint between the statues or between the doorframe, and infantry model would be targetable, because it would be either in front of and thus be able to be drawn LoS to without crossing the terrain, or within the terrain, and thus target-able normally. [Assuming the shooter is firing from the camera's perspective]



Ruins are also breachable, so INFANTRY [and SWARMS and BEASTS] would be able to move through walls and girders in the structure as if they were not there [as long as they don't end their move intersecting them]. A model that isn't one of those three without FLY would only be able to move through the door and the open space behind it.

I posted pics to clarify better, sorry for the sun glare. Looking at the pictures, can the Plague Marines be targeted by the Eldar Rangers, as the P Marines are not occupying the ruins but are in front of it. The ruins are over 5" tall.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
I posted pics to clarify better, sorry for the sun glare. Looking at the pictures, can the Plague Marines be targeted by the Eldar Rangers, as the P Marines are not occupying the ruins but are in front of it. The ruins are over 5" tall.

In this case, you cannot draw a line 1mm thick without it passing over the footprint of the terrain, so neither unit can see each other.

 Cheex wrote:

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
I posted pics to clarify better, sorry for the sun glare. Looking at the pictures, can the Plague Marines be targeted by the Eldar Rangers, as the P Marines are not occupying the ruins but are in front of it. The ruins are over 5" tall.

In this case, you cannot draw a line 1mm thick without it passing over the footprint of the terrain, so neither unit can see each other.

That's what I figured, thank you!