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Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






Hi all,

I'm currently experimenting glazing / washing over silver spray paint on plastic lids and toys for my army color scheme and find out some stuffs that might be helpful if you plan to paint over silver / gold / copper rattle can spray paint.
Some painting over went well and some terribly wrong...

I have done a bit of researches so below is a little summary

There is two types of pigments used in those cans, aluminium and zinc separated into two grades:
-non leafing pigment: powder and dust. Those are spread evenly in the paint, it can be re-coated with no issue.
Not providing the best silverish, chromish aspect though.

the dreaded one
-leafing pigment: pellet or lamellar particles. those are spread accross the surface of the paint, this is what is making the re-coatability very very poor (even from the pot paint will not adhere and leave a striky finish) even varnish will poorly adhere to that kind of pigment...
You get the best silverish, chromish aspect with those ones.

You shuld look for leafing pigment in the technical description of the spray paint, if nothing mentioned find the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) and look for Aluminium Powder (that's dumb I know...) Stabilised (CAS: 7429-90-5 , EC: 231-072-3)

I'm using graffiti spray cans (because they are the best ) and find those pigments in Montana Cans (german brand the 'fake' Montana') Gold / Black and Montana Colors (the original Montana)Hardcore.
If you did not know the 94 range of Montana Colors offers more than 200 colors in low pressure cans -you can definitely find your basecoat for your next project in here I'm not a sales rep

Hoping that post could save some of you troubles,
Cheers

   
Made in us
Ancient Venerable Dreadnought




San Jose, CA

I love Montana cans(from my previous naughty teenager period) and concur they are some of the best out there.
   
Made in us
Grumpy Longbeard






Extensive street bombing experience I see!

To be clear, your paint will flake off the leafing pigment coat, so don't use it?

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Made in us
Ancient Venerable Dreadnought




San Jose, CA

I've really, really been forcing myself to exert some restraint lately.....


Kinda mad that they no longer offer shock green, or any of the other shock colours for that matter.

altho, I've not had too much experience w the metallics, it is a common prob with other metal flake paints that I've encountered.
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh





New Orleans

I had problems with Black/Gold,
seeming to be too thick, and obscuring details...

anyone else experience that?
or was I being too heavy handed?
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






 Mothsniper wrote:
Extensive street bombing experience I see!

To be clear, your paint will flake off the leafing pigment coat, so don't use it?


The paint won't even adhere!
yeah this is why I want spray paint chrome color and black to be my main colors, as a 'tribute' to my main 'hobby'

I had problems with Black/Gold,
seeming to be too thick, and obscuring details...

anyone else experience that?
or was I being too heavy handed?


For miniature painting I would recommend using Montana Cans Gold and Montana Colors 94, as these are more versed into mural with low pressure etc
Montana Cans Black / Montana Colors Hardcore are more on the 'street'l side, more coverage and more pressure.

with Montana Black that might have been the issue,
so yeah I think you were too heavy handed. these two brands are IMO second to none compared to other rattle cans

edit: you need to chose cap carefully with these graffiti spray cans you do not want a fat cap for coating minis, skinny or super skinny cap are the best
so if you used cap that came with the can this coul explain obscuring issue too

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