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Am i just not seeing the rules on how you hit and wound in close combat?

What about targeting characters?

The rules for making attacks are written to cover both shooting and melee.

What about targeting characters?

What about it, specifically?

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Am i just not seeing the rules on how you hit and wound in close combat?

What about targeting characters?

The "Making Attacks" rules on page 18 of the core rules apply in general. You do the actual hitting and wounding in the Fight Phase. As the summary says, "When a unit fights, it piles in, then it makes close combat attacks, then it consolidates."

"Look Out, Sir" is a Shooting Phase rule. There is no corresponding version of that rule in the Fight Phase.

 Cheex wrote:
The rules for making attacks are written to cover both shooting and melee.

This. Specifically, you want page 220 of the Core book (not sure on the page reference for the smaller versions).
I presume to save on space, the "Making Attacks" rules come under the Shooting Phase section.

For characters, remember that characters are still units, so you target and attack them the same way as any other unit. The "Look Out Sir" gives additional restrictions but otherwise there's no difference.

 Cheex wrote:
The rules for making attacks are written to cover both shooting and melee.

Exactly as they did in 8th edition. For 9th edition, look at the top of page 220 under 'Making Attacks':

Attacks are made using ranged or melee weapons.

That's awesome ghaz, thank you so much.

Thank you all.

I thought there were rules having to do with line of sight and number of wounds?

"Line of sight" is no longer referred to as such, but it's under "Choosing Targets" on page 218, still under the Shooting section.
If by number of wounds, you mean damage, check "Causing Damage" on page 221.

...we're prevented from repeating the rules verbatim for copyright reasons, and frankly these are fairly basic questions you're asking, but it sounds like you have some familiarity with previous editions?
If you're struggling with the basic concepts, I suggest plonking a couple of test units with a variety of stats and weapons down on the table, and following the rules through with them as you play out a couple of turns.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
That's awesome ghaz, thank you so much.

Thank you all.

I thought there were rules having to do with line of sight and number of wounds?

That is covered under "Look out, Sir!" and is only applicable for shooting attacks.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
That's awesome ghaz, thank you so much.

Thank you all.

I thought there were rules having to do with line of sight and number of wounds?

If you don't already have the rulebook, I suggest downloading the core rules for free from the 40k website:
https://warhammer40000.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ENG_40K9_Basic_Rules.pdf

Ty again all.
Super ready nailed it.
Too many editions in my head without enough actual game time.
That and apparently my comprehension is crap. =p

Ty all for your help.

If the PDF is available for free, and we are able to provide the free PDF in this very thread, I can't see a legal reason we can't quote text from it in the same thread, we've indirectly quoted the entire document.

You know, you're probably right when it comes to the Core rules and FAQs in particular - and I can't see GW chasing after those, even if they thought they had a case. I just prefer to be careful.

 Super Ready wrote:
You know, you're probably right when it comes to the Core rules and FAQs in particular - and I can't see GW chasing after those, even if they thought they had a case. I just prefer to be careful.

IANAL, but even though something is freely available, doesn't mean you have the rights to re-transmit it. The rights holder still holds the rights.

Now, AFAIK quoting things for use in debates might fall under fair use, but again IANAL. And let's face it, it's not worth GW's time or precious-lets-make-more-primaris-marines-money to chase up people quoting small chunks of their rulebook.

We’re discussing their game, which is good for them. People regularly quote chunks of rules on this forum and it hasn’t been shut down yet. Methinks people are creating a problem that doesn’t exist.

noncommercial discussion, review, and criticism
of the quoted material
quoting only portions directly relevant to the debate
having no negative, negligible, or even some positive effect on the commercial value of the original copyright

yeah, I think we're solidly within Fair Use