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So, I got a request from an opponent to bring my Necrons Fri.
Thing is, all I've got rules-wise for them is the 8e Index. Using Battlescribe isn't an option (won't function on my phone), I'm not going to pirate a soon to be obsolete Codex, and I'm certainly not going to buy one at this late date....

My question is:
Barring strats/traits/etc/pts (wich will be CA2020 anyways), is there any significant difference to the units between the Index & Codex?

ccs wrote:
So, I got a request from an opponent to bring my Necrons Fri.
Thing is, all I've got rules-wise for them is the 8e Index. Using Battlescribe isn't an option (won't function on my phone), I'm not going to pirate a soon to be obsolete Codex, and I'm certainly not going to buy one at this late date....

My question is:
Barring strats/traits/etc/pts (wich will be CA2020 anyways), is there any significant difference to the units between the Index & Codex?

Wahapedia is a great resource, they've got lots of information there.

If you are playing index crons versus late game 8th army with PA rules you are more or less totally fethed.

ccs wrote:
My question is:
Barring strats/traits/etc/pts (wich will be CA2020 anyways), is there any significant difference to the units between the Index & Codex?

Yes. In short if you play index necrons you will be fethed big time. Even with codex you are behind the power curve. Without codex it's like turkey shooting. Opponent has going to enjoy or not enjoy easy automatic win

 Lance845 wrote:
If you are playing index crons versus late game 8th army with PA rules you are more or less totally fethed.

I'm not worried about it.
I'm facing one of the following: Thousand Sons with Magnus, UM with Gman, or Knights (loyalist).
I know my foes collection. And his play style. No matter what books he's using it'll be a good fight between my Necrons & either the TS/UM. Against the Knights it won't even be close as I'll win on the objectives.

honestly with armies like those, I'd almost be tempted to beg off for 2-3 weeks, snag the siulent king and do a "silent king vs primarch throw down" just cause that seems like sooo much fun!

BrianDavion wrote:
honestly with armies like those, I'd almost be tempted to beg off for 2-3 weeks, snag the siulent king and do a "silent king vs primarch throw down" just cause that seems like sooo much fun!

Ah, the Dakka answer to everything "Wait for _____". Feth that. There's games to be played in the here & now.
Besides, the Silent King isn't on my shopping list.

ccs wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
If you are playing index crons versus late game 8th army with PA rules you are more or less totally fethed.

I'm not worried about it.
I'm facing one of the following: Thousand Sons with Magnus, UM with Gman, or Knights (loyalist).
I know my foes collection. And his play style. No matter what books he's using it'll be a good fight between my Necrons & either the TS/UM. Against the Knights it won't even be close as I'll win on the objectives.

I hope your friend doesn't know you're bragging on dakka about how you can beat his Ultramarines with all tools available while you're playing the worst index-only faction.

 Arachnofiend wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
If you are playing index crons versus late game 8th army with PA rules you are more or less totally fethed.

I'm not worried about it.
I'm facing one of the following: Thousand Sons with Magnus, UM with Gman, or Knights (loyalist).
I know my foes collection. And his play style. No matter what books he's using it'll be a good fight between my Necrons & either the TS/UM. Against the Knights it won't even be close as I'll win on the objectives.

I hope your friend doesn't know you're bragging on dakka about how you can beat his Ultramarines with all tools available while you're playing the worst index-only faction.

I didn't. I said it'll be a good fight. We'll see how the dice roll.

ccs wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
honestly with armies like those, I'd almost be tempted to beg off for 2-3 weeks, snag the siulent king and do a "silent king vs primarch throw down" just cause that seems like sooo much fun!

Ah, the Dakka answer to everything "Wait for _____". Feth that. There's games to be played in the here & now.
Besides, the Silent King isn't on my shopping list.

ohh I more mean "I'd suggest attending my regular game with my normal thing, and running 'crons with the slent king vs his primarch list as soon as possiable" or even run necrons now and then run SK 'cron list later the silent king just looks fun

Have you considered temporarily subscribing to the app...? That gets you access to the 8th ed Codex for a month, for much less than the actual Codex. And it sounds like that's all you'll need (you could always note down anything major on pen and paper if you need to).

If the only faction rules you have are the Indexes, why not ask your opponent to use the appropriate Index as well for his army so you are both on a more equal footing?

The overwhelming majority of units and weapons did not receive changes when transitioning from Index to Codex, though there are a few significant ones (ex. Leman Russ' Grinding Advance and plasma vents; Harlequin heavy haywire changed to assault with more shots).

For what it's worth, my favorite version of modern 40k (aside from the new Apocalypse and Kill Team) is Index-only 8th with units and wargear points from Chapter Approved 2019. No stacks of strategem cards to memorize, no chapter traits to worry about, and a few, simple warlord traits and three stratagems from the core book to use. CA19 points help alleviate many of the points issues with the Indexes and give Necrons a fighting chance.
While some may consider the Index-only game boring with less flavor, I find the current game needlessly convoluted mainly due to the constant influx of new stratagems and additional layerings of new rules (ex. doctrines, super doctrines, protocols, warlord traits, specialist detachments, etc.).

edit: Index-only 8th is also significantly less "lethal" than Codex + Supplements 8th and 9th. The majority of stratagems and additional layers of rules that came with the codexes and supplements focused on increasing the killing power of units. Remove those from the game, and you end up with fewer alpha and beta strikes, and more units able to stick around and play a role in the game longer than turns 1 and 2.