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Gangly Grot Rebel





I`ve looked on Ebay and online but could not find anything so far.
Kinda surprised because all the other stuff is there usually at the day of a release.

Do you think getting those codes online will be a thing?
Maybe there are folks who don`t really know about it but i think a lot of players do. My guess was the app getting... not the best feedback would cause some people to immediatly sell those codes online to get a few bucks back.
At least there are a lot that prefer printed rules and don`t care about such an app, no matter how good or bad it is.

Personally i collected all the available rules digital (know your enemy) but just bought the printed books of factions i have myself or at least play against a lot.


And if this becomes a thing, what might be a fair price?
A codex goes for about 50 / 35 Dollar; 42 / 30 Euro; 30 / 25 pound. (Counting in discount of course.)

So what is a fair price, about 1/3 of the book, so ~10 bucks?
Especially for those that don`t care about the app at all thats sounds like a good deal.

   
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Servoarm Flailing Magos




United Kingdom

You can't sell codes on eBay (digital items are prohibited - Electronically delivered items policy).

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So what is a fair price, about 1/3 of the book, so ~10 bucks?
Especially for those that don`t care about the app at all thats sounds like a good deal.



Well, since the Codecis list for $50 here on the US site? No, that does not sound like a good deal.
It sounds like an insulting low ball offer.

And as one of those who doesn't care about the app? i will decide what sounds like a good deal to me.

Were i to sell my code to some stranger? Well, since I'm selling you an entire book, I think that I'd part with it for about $5 less than the standard discount GW allows retailers.
If you think that's too high? (Shrugs) Well its not costing me anything not to sell it, its not taking up any space on my shelf, & maybe in the future I might care about the app.
   
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Servoarm Flailing Magos




United Kingdom

ccs wrote:
Well, since I'm selling you an entire book

The code does not provide/unlock the entire book.

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NE Ohio, USA

beast_gts wrote:
ccs wrote:
Well, since I'm selling you an entire book

The code does not provide/unlock the entire book.


I stand corrected.
It unlocks the only part of the book that the vast majority would actually pay $ for were the book divided into two volumes & each sold separately.
So if you want the valuable part + digital convenience? Pay up.

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I feel like one of GWs perceived benefits of the code is to cut down on second hand selling of codexes because if you want to use a code with the app you will have to buy a new one.

Plus it will probably cut the price of second hand codexes.

Unless GW don’t improve the app in which case will anyone care about the code
   
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Stevenage, UK

ccs wrote:
It unlocks the only part of the book that the vast majority would actually pay $ for were the book divided into two volumes & each sold separately.

For what it's worth? I really like having the lore and colour bits.

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I think it will definitely be a new thing we'll see a lot of.
Obv. from the reactions here you will see a range of responses from people who don't value the app or the digital copy at all to people who *ahem* obviously care deeply.

Between issues with the app, codex shortages, and general newness of it all you will likely need to wait a while before you see where the average price falls. And different books may have different demands - e.g. maybe tournament players want to keep carry costs down so they want just the digital datasheets.

If I had to guess I would say $10 is too low, but $5 off the FLGS price is too high. Another way to think about it is to see what price you could expect to sell a used physical book with no code. For example, if someone wanted $40 for the digital datasheets from a $50 book - I would just go buy the book myself, take the codes, and sell the book for $20 or $30 or whatever.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
You can't sell codes on eBay (digital items are prohibited - Electronically delivered items policy).

I did not know about that, thanks for clearing that up mate!

ccs wrote:
Well, since the Codecis list for $50 here on the US site? No, that does not sound like a good deal.
It sounds like an insulting low ball offer.

And as one of those who doesn't care about the app? i will decide what sounds like a good deal to me.

Were i to sell my code to some stranger? Well, since I'm selling you an entire book, I think that I'd part with it for about $5 less than the standard discount GW allows retailers.
If you think that's too high? (Shrugs) Well its not costing me anything not to sell it, its not taking up any space on my shelf, & maybe in the future I might care about the app.

I live in Europe and buy most of my stuff with discount, so a codex is 25 Euro. Obviously if you do the math with Dollar you get other numbers.
Personally i would not pay over 15 Euro but 10 would be a fair price to me. If the app would not run on my phone thats the most i could personally accept. But more likely i`d give it to someone in my hobby club that would have a use for it for some beer and call it a day.
And - the same goes for selling hobby stuff - i always calculate with the discount prices as 90% of the people i know order their stuff over other retailers or get % in our FLGS.
Why sell a 100 Euro kit for 90 if i paid 75?
Thats one of the reasons you can almost never find good stuff on ebay nowadays because people will bid so much with GW prices in mind that i get the stuff for the same price or cheaper. OVP
But i guess everyone has his own standard and attitude.

Also the code does not give you background, stories, painting stuff and the value of having the physical book itself. Thats actually a part that has a lot of value to me, but only for stuff i play and that really interests me. Plus the rules in the app are totally different from design and mostly great for quick reference or looking up certain rules. Not to mention you have some wrong rules in the app which won`t happen with the printed book that get`s FAQ`d so you can easily check for 100% accurate rules.
For gaming itself the printed books are a lot more comfortable and will always beat PDF`s, the app or stuff like battlescribe.


Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
I think it will definitely be a new thing we'll see a lot of.
Obv. from the reactions here you will see a range of responses from people who don't value the app or the digital copy at all to people who *ahem* obviously care deeply.

Between issues with the app, codex shortages, and general newness of it all you will likely need to wait a while before you see where the average price falls. And different books may have different demands - e.g. maybe tournament players want to keep carry costs down so they want just the digital datasheets.

If I had to guess I would say $10 is too low, but $5 off the FLGS price is too high. Another way to think about it is to see what price you could expect to sell a used physical book with no code. For example, if someone wanted $40 for the digital datasheets from a $50 book - I would just go buy the book myself, take the codes, and sell the book for $20 or $30 or whatever.

Abolutely agree with you.
My guess would be you will easily get 50%+ of the GW price for a new codex without code. For that reason i will pay 10 Euro max. for a code from a 25 Euro book. But if prices for them will end up for more than half the GW price i`ll just sell the physical ones online or share with someone from my hobby club.
Right now you get the codex SM for about 33$ with discount, so 13-15$ for the code sounds fair to me.
But yeah, supply and demand will show where the prices will get to. Probably you`ll be better off selling the physical one but have more work that way.

For now i`m good as i got PM`d and got the SM code for 5 bucks from someone who did not want to use it, so all good for me.
Necron codex has allready his place on my shelf.
   
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 Super Ready wrote:
ccs wrote:
It unlocks the only part of the book that the vast majority would actually pay $ for were the book divided into two volumes & each sold separately.

For what it's worth? I really like having the lore and colour bits.


For the armies you actually care about and play? Some of it's pretty awesome, and the lore and color bits are going to stay relevant and accurate longer than the printed rules will. But it's all kind of Collector's Edition stuff, really. Art, background, stuff that should be an extra. I don't want to buy a Collector's Edition for every army in the game just to know what their rules are, as in the case of factions that will likely only ever interest me as an opponent.
   
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As noted, Ebay does not allow sales of digital products like this generally.

I suspect prices for secondhand app codes will likely be exceedingly low. Alternative rules sources like Battlescribe exist, piracy is a thing that is an option and widely resorted to (whatever one's feelings about that), and the lack of a physical product and much of the attached lore/art coupled with most major markets not allowing their sale/trade and making transactions less convenient, I suspect will result in generally very depressed prices for App codes in the market, particularly if functionality remains minimal and development slow. Honestly, I'd be surprised if people routinely pay more than $5-10 for secondhand codes.

That's my spitballing guess anyway.

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Agree, I'd pay $5-10 for codes from codices that I'm interested in but don't actually play. For those which I do play, getting the book is out of question.

You might also try to create a poll if you are interested in how much people would pay in general.

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I was planning on offering $5 locally for a code, and willing to go up to $10. Then someone just gave me theirs for no charge.

 
   
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I'm asking for 20 but will take 15. I've sold one so far. Makes buying the codex not such a big deal. I get an extra 15% off by selling the code and I would think the person who buys the code feels good about getting the rules for cheaper.
   
 
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