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I'm new to miniature wargaming and 40K with Indomitus. I split the box with a friend and we've added a few models (see below). Every time we play Combat Patrol (<=50 PL) he basically just marches his Skorpek Lord + Destroyers and Wraithes + Scarabs at me.

I try to create a gunline to hold him back, sending Outriders up the outside to flank and hopefully wear him down but once we fight he wipes me out. I've used obscuring cover to start with but unsure when to pop-out of cover to engage. I think I just need to learn some tabletop tactics. Any ideas where a newb can find some solid advice? (lists below)

Ultramarines
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Patrol Detachment - 43 PL

+ HQ +

Primaris Captain (Indomitus): Warlord
Librarian in Phobos Armour

+ Troops +

Assault Intercessor Squad (10 models)


+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad: Flamestorm Gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran Squad

+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad

+ Heavy Support +

Eradicators


Necrons
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Patrol Detachment - 47 PL

+ HQ +

Illuminor szeras
Skopekh lord

+ Troops +

Necron warriors (20 models - 50/50 Flayers/Reapers)

+ Elites +

Skorpekh Destroyers
Triarch Praetorians (Rod of Covenant)

+ Fast Attack +

Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Wraiths

aetherghost wrote:
I'm new to miniature wargaming and 40K with Indomitus. I split the box with a friend and we've added a few models (see below). Every time we play Combat Patrol (<=50 PL) he basically just marches his Skorpek Lord + Destroyers and Wraithes + Scarabs at me.

Make your Captain into a Chapter Master and target your eradicators to get re-rolls. Use your eradicators to shoot at the skorpekh destroyer squad or praetorians they will not get a save. With 6 shots you should be able to kill them in one volley.

aetherghost wrote:
I try to create a gunline to hold him back, sending Outriders up the outside to flank and hopefully wear him down but once we fight he wipes me out. I've used obscuring cover to start with but unsure when to pop-out of cover to engage. I think I just need to learn some tabletop tactics. Any ideas where a newb can find some solid advice? (lists below)

Don't worry losing is apart of growing we all have been in your shoes.

aetherghost wrote:
Ultramarines
----------------

Patrol Detachment - 43 PL

+ HQ +

Primaris Captain (Indomitus): Warlord

Make him a Chapter master so he can give re-rolls to hit to your eradicator unit.

aetherghost wrote:
Librarian in Phobos Armour

Use tenebrous curse on his units that are close to charging range. You should use smite and tenebrouse each turn -2 on their charge roll may win you the game.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Troops +

Assault Intercessor Squad (10 models)

Use transhuman physiology stratagem on them to make them harder to kill in close combat.
They can kill the scarabs or warriors in melee.
Try to assault their cc units so you can do a small amount of damage but it will mainly give you time for your elite choices to get within charge range.
There is a stratagem called fall back and re-engage. It allows you to fall back and charge you can use this to leave combat with his scary close combat unit and move towards his warriors and charge them.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad: Flamestorm Gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran Squad

These are good units just use terrain to protect them from shooting and charge his cc units and you should do well, don't forget to overwatch with your aggressor squads as the flamers auto-hit.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad

Stay close to the side of the board shooting at scarabs and warriors and if an opportunity arrives assault the warriors with this unit.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Heavy Support +

Eradicators

Receive re-rolls from your chapter master and target either skorpekh destroyers or praetorians.

Lastly, ultramarines have a stratagem called rapid redeployment. You can redeploy 3 units, use it to put your eradicators in a better position to aim at his skorpekh destroyer or praetorian squad.

I hope this helps.

 CKO wrote:

aetherghost wrote:
I'm new to miniature wargaming and 40K with Indomitus. I split the box with a friend and we've added a few models (see below). Every time we play Combat Patrol (<=50 PL) he basically just marches his Skorpek Lord + Destroyers and Wraithes + Scarabs at me.

Make your Captain into a Chapter Master and target your eradicators to get re-rolls. Use your eradicators to shoot at the skorpekh destroyer squad or praetorians they will not get a save. With 6 shots you should be able to kill them in one volley.

aetherghost wrote:
I try to create a gunline to hold him back, sending Outriders up the outside to flank and hopefully wear him down but once we fight he wipes me out. I've used obscuring cover to start with but unsure when to pop-out of cover to engage. I think I just need to learn some tabletop tactics. Any ideas where a newb can find some solid advice? (lists below)

Don't worry losing is apart of growing we all have been in your shoes.

aetherghost wrote:
Ultramarines
----------------

Patrol Detachment - 43 PL

+ HQ +

Primaris Captain (Indomitus): Warlord

Make him a Chapter master so he can give re-rolls to hit to your eradicator unit.

aetherghost wrote:
Librarian in Phobos Armour

Use tenebrous curse on his units that are close to charging range. You should use smite and tenebrouse each turn -2 on their charge roll may win you the game.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Troops +

Assault Intercessor Squad (10 models)

Use transhuman physiology stratagem on them to make them harder to kill in close combat.
They can kill the scarabs or warriors in melee.
Try to assault their cc units so you can do a small amount of damage but it will mainly give you time for your elite choices to get within charge range.
There is a stratagem called fall back and re-engage. It allows you to fall back and charge you can use this to leave combat with his scary close combat unit and move towards his warriors and charge them.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad: Flamestorm Gauntlets

Bladeguard Veteran Squad

These are good units just use terrain to protect them from shooting and charge his cc units and you should do well, don't forget to overwatch with your aggressor squads as the flamers auto-hit.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Fast Attack +

Outrider Squad

Stay close to the side of the board shooting at scarabs and warriors and if an opportunity arrives assault the warriors with this unit.

aetherghost wrote:
+ Heavy Support +

Eradicators

Receive re-rolls from your chapter master and target either skorpekh destroyers or praetorians.

Lastly, ultramarines have a stratagem called rapid redeployment. You can redeploy 3 units, use it to put your eradicators in a better position to aim at his skorpekh destroyer or praetorian squad.

I hope this helps.

Yes! This is all excellent and exactly the type of practical advice I was looking for! Thank you for the assist. I will try these tactics out in the next match.

Well, in small pt games and by using specific units and models, the big picture is different from larger pt games.
Don't care about your question.

[ ] Useful post above.

Note that you are playing Incursion, not Combat Patrol.
For game size, the count of PL is total between the two players, so 43 + 47 = 90, almost 100 PL. You should start with more CP and be able to field another detachment, but the field should be the same.
Not sure if this has some importance for you guys but...

Also do your best to stay farther away, this is harder to do in 9th than in previous editions. His warriors want to be within 12” and everything else he has wants to be even closer as they are close combat oriented.