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Of course in terms of the rules, Imperial Knights alone are an army in their own right, but do Knight households also have their own troops? Could an Imperial Knight be backed up in battle by his/her own lance fournie of footsoldiers and/or vehicles?

lore wise, thiers no mention of them having footsoliders, but i can easily imagine them doing so, to do all those jobs that knights are not that good at.

Mechanicaly, i'd imagine it to just be a standard Astra Militarum detachment with appropriate colours,

They often go to battle with men-at-arms and legions of Secutarii.

Retinue troops would without a doubt be standard fare, especially for planetary defence duty. Astra Militarum in House colours.

Thanks for the answers. I scoured Lexicanum and warhammer40k.fandom again because I could swear I remembered reading something mentioning household troops, and I have found the answer in exactly the same words on both sites:

In addition to the Knight war machines, every house had multiple men-at-arms in its employ, resembling somewhat modern Planetary Defence Forces, although possessing a much smaller amount of heavy equipment.

So yeah, it looks like Knight households do have infantry retinues. I also saw this artwork elsewhere (I don't know its origins, if anyone could enlighten me?), I think it's a good look for the concept:

Madrobot miniatures make some great parts for what you’re looking for, you can mix and match the exact look in custom squads.

 Sturmtruppen wrote:
Of course in terms of the rules, Imperial Knights alone are an army in their own right, but do Knight households also have their own troops? Could an Imperial Knight be backed up in battle by his/her own lance fournie of footsoldiers and/or vehicles?

Depends on the planet, depends on the Household.

For instance in the BL novels by Andy Clark, the Household featured has a full combined arms force including void ships, aircraft, superheavy vehicles etc but they are alone in running their planet so have to be self sufficent. Those households that are closely allied with the Ad Mech are likely to have Skitarri and other support units.

Effectively the ruler of a Household is often the equivalent to a Planetary Governor with all the resources they would normally command including its military.

I think this has been pretty much answered, but I'm throwing my two cents in anyway. I imagine most knight houses are rich and powerful enough to have there own conventional soldiers in the same way that navigator houses and planetary governors can afford private armies.

In the cases of houses that are especially closely tied to the mechanicus, such private armies might be redundant with the skitarii forces already available to the mechanicus sponsors of the knight house.

And obviously if the knights are part of a crusade or what have you, there are probably some infantry running around, albeit not under their direct command.

 Sturmtruppen wrote:
Thanks for the answers. I scoured Lexicanum and warhammer40k.fandom again because I could swear I remembered reading something mentioning household troops, and I have found the answer in exactly the same words on both sites:

In addition to the Knight war machines, every house had multiple men-at-arms in its employ, resembling somewhat modern Planetary Defence Forces, although possessing a much smaller amount of heavy equipment.

So yeah, it looks like Knight households do have infantry retinues. I also saw this artwork elsewhere (I don't know its origins, if anyone could enlighten me?), I think it's a good look for the concept:

This looks like the Makers Cult Feudal Guard army:-

Household troops would be a really good way to expand the Codex IMO. Even just rules for having specific guard or mechanicum units (like how GSC do) would add a lot of depth. Create a special 'patrol' detachment for Knights where the HQ slots are replaced with LoW slots.

xerxeskingofking wrote:
lore wise, thiers no mention of them having footsoliders, but i can easily imagine them doing so, to do all those jobs that knights are not that good at.

Mechanicaly, i'd imagine it to just be a standard Astra Militarum detachment with appropriate colours,

No offense but you must not know a lot of IK lore.

I'm not the biggest IK fan but I've read about household troops countless times, including in White Dwarf articles and (I think) codexes

They most probably have, let aside lone knights. Since the knights on their planets are the local rulers they probably must have a retenue to rule their land with, and they have to wealth to do so.

I guess the feudal thinking of knights will also surely make them naturally walk about with teir servants wherever they go, after all you don't ride into battle alone.

For what it's worth I rememeber DoW3 putting you against knight retinues in the first ork mission.

Anyway that would be absolutly great to have them included in the codices at some point

Well, it would be nice to have some representation in Kill Team.

Maybe a smaller Knight below the Armiger called a Cavalier, and support soliders called Squires?

Those miniatures are wonderful... And exactly what I've been looking for a while!! Thanks man!

SamusDrake wrote:
Well, it would be nice to have some representation in Kill Team.

You don't think the idea of mini-knights and micro-knights would be getting silly? Especially since you'd be trying to make up a knight themed model on the scale of a dreadnought, and not on the scale of a hive tyrant.

Don't lose sight of the fact that Kill Team has so far only gotten its own models for the commanders, and those models got discontinued last year. (I had to check to make sure they weren't just a fever dream.)

 solkan wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Well, it would be nice to have some representation in Kill Team.

You don't think the idea of mini-knights and micro-knights would be getting silly? Especially since you'd be trying to make up a knight themed model on the scale of a dreadnought, and not on the scale of a hive tyrant.

Support soldiers as in Imperial Guardsmen, that visually fit in with the knight theme - as suggested above.

As for a smaller knight I'd welcome possibilities as compared to other 40K factions(game-wise, not fluff), the Knights are relatively young. If the model and rules are good then I'd have no problem with it.


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 solkan wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Well, it would be nice to have some representation in Kill Team.

Don't lose sight of the fact that Kill Team has so far only gotten its own models for the commanders, and those models got discontinued last year. (I had to check to make sure they weren't just a fever dream.)

At the moment Kill Team just uses models from the regular 40K range of kits, save for Rogue Trader and at a stretch the Blackstone Fortress models. If they released any such IK models then it would likely be primarily for 40K and KT second.