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Sorry if this is in the wrong spot, noob here. I'm a first time player building a Dark Angels battalion. It's 60% Dearhwing and the rest is the obligatory intercessors, a unit of hellblasters and 2 units of plasma inceptors. I am considering trading out one of 4 units of terminators for some blade guard vets to save some points. Sorry my battlescibe app is blowing up or I'd post the exact details.

My question is, would I.get more out.of a linrarian , specifically Ezekiel, or an Interrogator Chaplain. I could get by without the litanies as I have two other HQs with good buffs. The chappy would basically be a combat murder machine with maybe some backup buffs for other units. Ezekiel though, as I understand it, is a master of imteromancy and that's supposed to kickass (don't have.the new codex yet). Whats the general feeling about this?

Again, sorry if this is already somewhere else. I'm on my phone and blind as a bat.

My opinion is you don't just splash in chaplains or librarians. You need have a specific litanies/spells in mind that contribute towards your overall strategy.

With MSU chaplain buffs are mediocre, with the exception of the "2 charge buff for deep striking. As a pure beat stick, I'm missing the hype. You could make a chapter champion stronger for less points.

Same for librarian, what are you taking? One situational debuff, and a smite isn't worth 100+ pts and an HQ slot.

 footfoe wrote:
My opinion is you don't just splash in chaplains or librarians. You need have a specific litanies/spells in mind that contribute towards your overall strategy.

With MSU chaplain buffs are mediocre, with the exception of the "2 charge buff for deep striking. As a pure beat stick, I'm missing the hype. You could make a chapter champion stronger for less points.

Same for librarian, what are you taking? One situational debuff, and a smite isn't worth 100+ pts and an HQ slot.

Thanks Footfoe. I admit, I hadn't thought of any specific situation. For the librarian, I was merely thinking of some of the useful psyker abilities. No particular situation in mind. Though I did think the null field was pretty sweet and I was thinking that one of the "smite like" abilities where you can pick a model to damage would essentially let me control which models I could remove (due to further damage having to come off the already injured model). That would be useful against a unit with specific weapons or invuls scattered throughout. I don't know if that's enough of a reason or not.

Good info. I'll look at some other HQ choices or maybe some cheaper units instead.

I'll second that. Think hard about how you want your list to work first and then look for the HQ choice that best compliments that. Chaplains, for example, can either be lone wolves who zoom off on their bikes and smash hard targets or they can buff a specific unit with litanies and act as a force multiplier. So figure out what your list needs and work from there.