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Hey all,

Been tweaking my thousand sons whilst slowly painting it up. Trying to aim for something fairly competitive. I know I should probably have a Daemon Prince in there, but struggling with points.

Thought the idea of the new and improved Laser Destroyer (can buff the T8 chassis with a 5++ and prescience so hitting on 2's) might be a great answer for anti tank which Tsons struggle with, backlining the twin Defilers which have also had a welcomed points drop (imagine they'll get the death guard treatment also). Dark crystal to throw terminators up the board T1 and termite + Rhino also pushing rubrics onto objectives asap. Cheapish, Spawn can move fast onto objectives or warp time up the board for increased threat saturation.


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [114 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cults of the Legion: Cult of Magic

Detachment Command Cost

+ HQ +

Ahriman [8 PL, 150pts]: Glamour of Tzeentch, Prescience, Warptime

Exalted Sorcerer [6 PL, -1CP, 100pts]: 6. High Magister, Death Hex, Doombolt, Inferno Bolt Pistol, Magister

Exalted Sorcerer [6 PL, 100pts]: Dark Matter Crystal, Devastating Sorcery, Infernal Gaze, Inferno Bolt Pistol, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Warlord

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 60pts]
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Rubric Marines [12 PL, 190pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno Bolt Pistol, Temporal Manipulation
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun
. Rubric Marine w/ Soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon

Rubric Marines [12 PL, 162pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno Bolt Pistol, Weaver of Fates
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun

+ Elites +

Scarab Occult Terminators [20 PL, 405pts]: 2x Hellfyre Missile Rack
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 9x Terminator: 9x Inferno Combi-bolter, 9x Power sword

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [5 PL, 115pts]
. 5x Chaos Spawn: 5x Hideous mutations

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Vindicator Laser Destroyer [10 PL, 180pts]: Hellforged hunter-killer missile

Defiler [9 PL, 140pts]: Defiler scourge, Reaper autocannon

Defiler [9 PL, 140pts]: Defiler scourge, Reaper autocannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 78pts]: Combi-bolter

Chaos Terrax-Pattern Termite [10 PL, 180pts]
. 2 Terrax combi-bolters

++ Total: [114 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++

I do love the Defiler, just not sure if 2 will be as competitive as you're hoping for. If you do want to keep both, get the Twin-Las, it's only 10pts now!.

I don't know what 10 Cultists are likely to do, I'd suggest either going big or getting rid of them.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I do love the Defiler, just not sure if 2 will be as competitive as you're hoping for. If you do want to keep both, get the Twin-Las, it's only 10pts now!.

I don't know what 10 Cultists are likely to do, I'd suggest either going big or getting rid of them.

Hey,

Think the Defilers are possible winners from the points changes and they're pretty cheap for the improved battle cannon and stat line (always dangerous to anything in close combat). I did wonder whether I'd want 1x Chaos spawn Vs two sets of lascannons hitting on a 4+. I've done some nice conversions from armigers and dunecrawlers so keen to see if I can make them work.

The cultists are literally there to sit on an objective. Don't want them to fire/screen or do anything, other than raise banners and the like. Don't particularly want another rubric squad that just sits and does nothing scoring me points.

I think you need more threats.
Upgrade one of the sorcerers to a demon prince, now you have native access to gaze of fate, and infernal gateway. And a better target for warptime (which should be on Ahriman or the remaining exalted).
I can't see the point of the vindicator laser destroyer over a much cheaper basic vindicator. Maybe drop the soul reaper on the troop squad, its just another bolter really, and then upgrade the drill to having volkite blasters over combi-bolters. (its so expensive).

Got a 3rd defiler? That's looking pretty good. Maybe 5 more spawn? Cult of magic is good, but what about the one where you can bring back to life models that have died. I think that might be better if you have spawn and terminators.

Got any horrors? summoning in a cheap 4++ screen is always welcome. Rather have 10 horrors than a rhino.

 ThatNorthLondonGuy wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
I do love the Defiler, just not sure if 2 will be as competitive as you're hoping for. If you do want to keep both, get the Twin-Las, it's only 10pts now!.

I don't know what 10 Cultists are likely to do, I'd suggest either going big or getting rid of them.

Hey,

Think the Defilers are possible winners from the points changes and they're pretty cheap for the improved battle cannon and stat line (always dangerous to anything in close combat). I did wonder whether I'd want 1x Chaos spawn Vs two sets of lascannons hitting on a 4+. I've done some nice conversions from armigers and dunecrawlers so keen to see if I can make them work.

The cultists are literally there to sit on an objective. Don't want them to fire/screen or do anything, other than raise banners and the like. Don't particularly want another rubric squad that just sits and does nothing scoring me points.

Oh don't get me wrong, I do like the Defiler, currently building my own in the P&M blog in my sig, but I'm not 100% sure they're as competitive as you're looking for.

I'm wondering if it's worth using Cult of Duplicity as your main tactic, use DMC and Sorcerous Facade to get a squad of Termies and the Defiler in the enemy's face Turn 1.

 Valkyrie wrote:

 ThatNorthLondonGuy wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
I do love the Defiler, just not sure if 2 will be as competitive as you're hoping for. If you do want to keep both, get the Twin-Las, it's only 10pts now!.

I don't know what 10 Cultists are likely to do, I'd suggest either going big or getting rid of them.

Hey,

Think the Defilers are possible winners from the points changes and they're pretty cheap for the improved battle cannon and stat line (always dangerous to anything in close combat). I did wonder whether I'd want 1x Chaos spawn Vs two sets of lascannons hitting on a 4+. I've done some nice conversions from armigers and dunecrawlers so keen to see if I can make them work.

The cultists are literally there to sit on an objective. Don't want them to fire/screen or do anything, other than raise banners and the like. Don't particularly want another rubric squad that just sits and does nothing scoring me points.

Oh don't get me wrong, I do like the Defiler, currently building my own in the P&M blog in my sig, but I'm not 100% sure they're as competitive as you're looking for.

I'm wondering if it's worth using Cult of Duplicity as your main tactic, use DMC and Sorcerous Facade to get a squad of Termies and the Defiler in the enemy's face Turn 1.

Great shout. Warptime on the other Defiler also. Means alot of T1 pressure!

Gone back to the drawing board with some tweaks.

Think this might be abit more potent with cult of duplicity? Potentially the Decimator, Defiler and 5 man Chaos Spawn being up close and personal?


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [111 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Cults of the Legion: Cult of Duplicity

Detachment Command Cost

+ HQ +

Ahriman [8 PL, 150pts]: Doombolt, Prescience, Warptime

Exalted Sorcerer [6 PL, -1CP, 100pts]: Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Bolt Pistol, Magister, Tzeentch's Firestorm

Exalted Sorcerer on Disc of Tzeentch [7 PL, 120pts]: Duplicitous Tactician, Helm of the Third Eye, Inferno Bolt Pistol, Temporal Manipulation, Warlord, Weaver of Fates

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 60pts]
. 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun: 9x Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Rubric Marines [12 PL, 190pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno Bolt Pistol, Temporal Manipulation
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun
. Rubric Marine w/ Soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon

Rubric Marines [12 PL, 190pts]
. Aspiring Sorcerer: Inferno Bolt Pistol, Temporal Manipulation
. 8x Rubric Marine w/ Inferno Boltgun: 8x Inferno boltgun
. Rubric Marine w/ Soulreaper cannon: Soulreaper cannon

+ Elites +

Decimator [9 PL, 160pts]: 2x Decimator claw with hellflamer

Scarab Occult Terminators [20 PL, 405pts]: 2x Hellfyre Missile Rack
. Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Glamour of Tzeentch, Inferno Combi-bolter
. 9x Terminator: 9x Inferno Combi-bolter, 9x Power sword

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [5 PL, 115pts]
. 5x Chaos Spawn: 5x Hideous mutations

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Vindicator Laser Destroyer [10 PL, 180pts]: Hellforged hunter-killer missile

Defiler [9 PL, 150pts]: Defiler scourge, Twin lascannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Terrax-Pattern Termite [10 PL, 180pts]
. 2 Terrax combi-bolters

++ Total: [111 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++

If you're going for a Decimator I think it'd be better to take 2 Soulburners rather than the claws. I'd also try to fit in another Hellfire in the SOT unit.