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I'm new to minifigures painting and I must have made some begginers mistake since I completely destroyed my "Pandemic: Reign of cthulhu" minifigures I started with.
My problem is once I apply the shade/wash on painted minigures there are some strange white/grey spots created instead of black shade as shown on attached pictures.
At first I thought this that shade had washed my paint away, but when I was painting those 26 little bastards there were no bright colors used (just green, black, blue and silver).
I'm using Citadel and Vallejo (game) paints only. No additives except water and have no clue where those white stuff is comming from. I have used Tamiya grey primer on some of the and car black primer on the other. Same issue on both groups.
This is happening when
My hipothesis:
- I did not shake shade well enough
- I have used wrong brush (how come?)
- Shade is reacting with paint (how come if they are from same manufacturer?)
- I did not wait long enough before applying shade (I waited at least 24 h before moving ahead)
- I should not add water to shade
- I used wrong water (I used tap water)

Do you have any ideas?
I looked at the Youtube tutorials and have no clue what i do wrong here. It seems so easy there, but is completely not working on my end.

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I think watering down the shade has caused it to break up when drying.

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I've had that a few times. To my knowledge it's one of two things.

1 is possible water somewhere causing the wash to set wrong.

2 is what you're using as an undercoat/basecoat. I swear some of the models I've had that odd white stuff crop up on I've given a coloured spray undercoat or used a nonGW paint to do basecoating which caused it to cling to the models wrong or have a reaction of some sort.

But that is just my experience, I still hope it offers some help.
   
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Probably a combination of not shaking the bottle enough and then thinning with water, causing the pigment to seperate. What I would do is paint over that section with a dark colour similar to the shade, then re shade. I always found that simply rewashing never actually solved the problem.

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i always thin down shades and ink with water and never had a problem with it did you use an primer? before painting. and what kind of primer did you use

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There are some paints that do react weirdly to each other - I've had this with a specific oxide brown paint from an artists' acrylic range (Lascaux) which somehow causes the black Vallejo wash to turn gray - and it does the same to the umber paint from the Lascaux range if I try to use the latter as a highly diluted wash (guess this has to do with the pigment separating, as qar wrote above). Might be something in the primer, in your case?

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Are you using a different brush than you used for the silver? It looks like it could be silver pigment.

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I 100% have this problem when I try to thin Nuln Oil with water. I'm not entirely sure why as it doesn't happen with any other citadel washes, but that one it happens all the time, sometimes even from just having too much water in the brush.
   
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Thanks for the hints. Some of my answers:

I painted two groups:
1st - Tamya primer - Citadel/Vallejo paints - Vallejo wash thinned with water - effect? - bright spots appeard
2nd - Cheap car primer for plastic - Citadel/Vallejo paints - Citadel shade thinned with water - effect? - bright spots

On first try I thought Vallejo wash was the case, but it wasn't as I found out painting second group.

I was using brand new brush - not used on any other paint.

I doubt that Citadel paints and Citadel shade may react to each other - that will be a silly mistake of them.

I think I will fix the colours to what they were before and try unthinned shade of Citadel (this Vallejo stuff is to dark for me).

I will be glad to know not to make this mistake again.


   
 
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