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Made in us
Winter Guard





So having just finished Darkness in the Blood I have a lot of questions that basically boil down to 'is this for real / trustworthy?'

We are given a definitive answer as to where Mephiston's powers come from, and his new/current status after the Primaris transformation.
Spoiler:
The short version is that he is a conduit that effectively grounds the accumulated psychic essence of the Black Rage like a lightning rod, which nearly causes Terrible Things until the Rubicon Primaris procedure kills him so he can talk to Sanguinius/not-Sanguinius.


We get a clear, logical explanation for what the Sanguinor is (and his darker shadow).
Spoiler:
It is the Warp echo of the millennia of accumulated Blood Angels nobility and penchant for acts of beauty and creation. Which is pretty neat, really, but why do no other old organizations have Warp mascots? Or are we going to see a lot of new background essentially stating that they do?


We even get a clear answer to 'is Sanguinius still alive somehow' although that part is pretty weird.
Spoiler:
The Warp entity that may or may not be Sanguinius flatly denies being him - "I am not Sanguinius. Sanguinius is dead." But note that the statement comes during a discussion about the warp having echoes and being a reflection of reality - "It is corrupted, but it contains everything, and that includes good as well as evil". The entity in question looks like the primarch, acts like the primarch, and is massively potent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...


Also the most interesting part, that goes by very quickly but might be the most important, is a brief line or two stating that Abaddon may not end up being happy about what he has unleashed with the Rift and general warp crap. I read that as talking about how the Warp gods have their own plans but also as an allusion that the "good" warp stuff can now exact more influence as well (Ecclesiarchy miracles, the Sanguinor, etc) It reminded me that in one of the other recent books one of the Adeptus Custodes with Guilliman, during a massive display of power by an alleged saint, pauses and addresses it as "My Lord..?" with complete shock. I may be quoting that wrong but he very clearly thinks for a moment he sees the Emperor at work, and Custodes are not easily tricked or surprised.

Anyways, back to this book - It just... it's a lot. And I think there are legitimate questions about whether there is trickery/misguidedness involved. I was not expecting so many big revelations about Blood Angels mysteries all in one book.

Not to mention, IF the info on the Sanguinor is legit, then why wouldn't all Chapters that are old enough have some kind of Warp mascot?
   
Made in us
Roarin' Runtherd




I think the Blood Angels as a legion which lost their primarch have that because of the manner in which Sanguinius was slain and his dual nature was the needed conditions to create such a mascot. Second I wouldn't be surprised if other groups had Warp Mascots which express themselves in different ways, the miracles of Faith that the Sisters display could be such an occurrence along with their various Saints.

Chaos has its warp mascots coming out the eves, and Eldar have their avatars and their surviving Gods. Hell the Tau have a weird Greater Good Warp entity that acted during the 4th Sphere of expansion.
   
Made in us
Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle






Spoiler:
Worth noting that Sanguinius is more or less worshipped as a saint by the peoples of the Imperium. That would lend a huge amount of 'charge' to any Sanguinius-related warp entities in a manner that other chapter warp-mascots do not get. Even being what they are, marines are so tiny in number that I doubt they are enough to really manifest such a significant entity on their own. But with the (albeit indirect) worship of the Imperium's masses, absolutely.
   
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Battleship Captain




Correct. Sanguinalia is an Imperium-wide religious festival, and by all accounts seen one of the more uplifting ones. Its alsi basically the only such centred on a single individual who isn't the Emperor - many saints get lots of holy days, but they're almost always local to a world or a sector or a specific branch of the ministorum.

Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
 
   
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Actually the idea isn’t entirely new. Back in 4th ed there was an ultramarine (and successors) psychic power that made the space marine psycher conjure up a beast that was a psychic manifestation of the legends surrounding the chapter. Rules wise it shot (charged) in a straight line hitting everyone it touched with d6 str 5 (IIRC). Also the fenris spirits are supposedly something similar.

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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. 
   
 
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