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Average Orc Boy



Duluth

Got 1500 points of Khorne atm and building another 1000-1500ish for side board/mix ins. I just had afew questions as im new as gak to AOS coming from a 40k background sooooooooooooo here we go:
1. Which Khorne book do i buy? I saw one that was Chaos Battletome: Blades of Khorne and then another one and they both look the same, but different?
2. How Good is Archaon the Everchosen? I know he's like....what 700 points? But is it worth it to take him over 1-2 thirsters?
3. I'm running 6 of the mounted dude (Skullcrushers I THINK) mainly cuz i like the models, but most lists i see don't use them are they like super bad or something?
4. I'm also running 2x Slaughter Priests cuz this seems like they're in every fricken list and the models look cool so sure, but why are they in every list?
5. Do i have to take a shrine in my army and does it cost points? Should i include one?
6. I've got 10 of the....Bloodthirsters? The demons with swords because i've been told to take a unit of them for summoning purposes....should i take more then 10?
7. Goreglaives - wtf are they and should i take...i think its 1 per 5?
8. Are the canons ever worth it? I like the model and if their just hot garbage like they are in Total War Warhammer 2 i probably won't pay for them if i'm never gonna use them, but i do like the model.

Any tips or any question answered i thank you for your time and be safe!
   
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Rahdok wrote:
Got 1500 points of Khorne atm and building another 1000-1500ish for side board/mix ins. I just had afew questions as im new as gak to AOS coming from a 40k background sooooooooooooo here we go:
1. Which Khorne book do i buy? I saw one that was Chaos Battletome: Blades of Khorne and then another one and they both look the same, but different?


Yes, the 1st & 2nd edition Khorne books look very similar.
You buy this one: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Battletome-Blades-of-Khorne-EN-hb-2019
Because it's the most recent.


Rahdok wrote:
2. How Good is Archaon the Everchosen? I know he's like....what 700 points? But is it worth it to take him over 1-2 thirsters?


He's pretty good, & a fantastic model. I still prefer Bloodthirsters though. It's just a #s thing. I can get 2+ units vs 1....



Rahdok wrote:
3. I'm running 6 of the mounted dude (Skullcrushers I THINK) mainly cuz i like the models, but most lists i see don't use them are they like super bad or something?


Mounted demons? Or mounted chaos warriors?
I'm guessing others don't use them as they've done the math & think they're overpriced. But don't let that stop you.
I've run 20+ of the mounted demons. My friend has about the same amount of mounted warriors. We've had perfectly fun games. But then we're not concerned about being tourney optimized.


Rahdok wrote:
4. I'm also running 2x Slaughter Priests cuz this seems like they're in every fricken list and the models look cool so sure, but why are they in every list?


Because of their prayers & maybe access to the Judgements. That's why they're in my force.


Rahdok wrote:
5. Do i have to take a shrine in my army and does it cost points? Should i include one?


The Skull Alter? No you don't have to take it. (honestly I forget what it does as I've never built/used one) iirc it's terrain. If I'm right its 0pts. So if it's free there's not much reason NOT to take it - beyond like me just never buying the kit.....


Rahdok wrote:
6. I've got 10 of the....Bloodthirsters? The demons with swords because i've been told to take a unit of them for summoning purposes....should i take more then 10?


Oh, if only Bloodthirsters came in units of 10.... You've got Bloodletters.
I'd say have access to twenty & when you get your tome study the rules for bloodpoints & summoming. Then decide what you need


Rahdok wrote:
7. Goreglaives - wtf are they and should i take...i think its 1 per 5?


Sorry, minds blanking on this ones stats.


Rahdok wrote:
8. Are the canons ever worth it? I like the model and if their just hot garbage like they are in Total War Warhammer 2 i probably won't pay for them if i'm never gonna use them, but i do like the model.


Eh. They provide a bit of shooting. I own two & sometimes use them. Overall they've never been terribly effective. Bur every now & then....
Mostly I use them just because I like the model and am not afraid to change up my list occasionally.
   
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I feel a need to disagree with your take on #5.

The Skull Altar faction terrain is free and fantastic. If you run Khorne Priests of any flavor, you want this piece. Getting rerolls on your Prayer and Judgement rolls for priests wholly within 8" of the model is FANTASTIC. It also hurts enemy spellcasting, enemies within 16" of it suffer a -1 to their Casting Rolls. Stack it up with your other anti-magic tools.

That chunk of spikes and garbage always makes me think harder about how I move my wizards around in any army I play and really amps up the reliability of Slaughterpriests.

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Duluth

So the Altar is free? Good thats awesome. I don't see a reason NOT to take it then. Thanks guys!
   
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NE Ohio, USA

 Thadin wrote:
I feel a need to disagree with your take on #5.


I don't see what you're disagreeing with.
There's a difference between things you HAVE to take (a leader, x battleline, various warscroll battalion requirements if you aim to play one of those) & things that are simply good ideas to take (the altar). I did recommend taking it if it was free.

Spoiler:
I forget what it does not because I don't find it useful, but because I don't own one and have never taken the time to scratch build one. I don't own one because (IMO) it's not a very exciting model. There's always some other unit/model ahead of it on my list of things to spend $/time on.
So until I reach the end of that list (HA!) my own Khorne forces simply do without. And they do well enough without, so making them an altar never moves up on the list....
Would an altar be useful to me? Very likely. Is it required? Nope.
   
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 Thadin wrote:
I feel a need to disagree with your take on #5.

The Skull Altar faction terrain is free and fantastic. If you run Khorne Priests of any flavor, you want this piece. Getting rerolls on your Prayer and Judgement rolls for priests wholly within 8" of the model is FANTASTIC. It also hurts enemy spellcasting, enemies within 16" of it suffer a -1 to their Casting Rolls. Stack it up with your other anti-magic tools.

That chunk of spikes and garbage always makes me think harder about how I move my wizards around in any army I play and really amps up the reliability of Slaughterpriests.


There's difference between it's good and you have to have it. Most people aren't bottomless pools of money so focusing on getting units first is valid.

Do you rather play without terrain or withoup say secrator?

I'm still missing slaanesh terrain piece and won't get lizard one. I'm doing fine with slaanesh. I rather miss those than unit

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2021 painted/bought: 506/499 
   
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Duluth

I bought a Skarbrand model that im currently painting, i just liked the way he looked and i figured i could just say at worst he was a thirster and most people would just be like "yeah okay" so sort of a 2 for 1 thing. I'm very on the fence about the big single entity models in AOS. Most are like 700+ points that can do some great things, but they're clearly superior ones (the undead dude that can cast like 8 spells comes to mind). How good is Skarbrand or Archaon? Like i don't think i'll play compettively maybe some local tournaments or something, but it would be nice to have a good army. If i wanted to win a lot i'd jjust play Osiarch and do a copy paste, but i like the look of Khorne Models and their a solid B tier army.

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Skarbrand is bit of odd one. Not particularly fast nor durable but if he can get to contact with enemy he'll wreck pretty much anything. And seriously punishes enemy if they can't kill it off as he'll be total nutcase if you can buff him doing 16-24 mortal wounds automatically as a bare minimum

Kind of target opponent wants to either kill off at once or feed sacrificial unit every round(to keep it from going super-berserk next round. It's not fun when every attack from one of his attack does minimum of 8 mortal wounds).

Problem being facing good enough shooting to kill him off and it's not THAT hard to do. Make sure you have something else to do the job if he dies. Having 2nd bloodthirster recommended for that purpose. Opponent might kill one. Whatabout 2 at once?

2021 painted/bought: 506/499 
   
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Get a bloodsecrator.
   
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Average Orc Boy



Duluth

I have a bloodsecrator and 2 slaughterpriests. Getting another bloodthirster but Skarbrand I got on eBay for 50 bucks and like I said it can be him or a bloodthirster so it worked out but I do plan on buying 1-2 others
   
 
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