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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine






Found a peculiar looking helmet today, can anyone tell me which model is this? Something about the helmet design reminds me of White Scars but that's just a hunch, I got no leads on how to find out what it is..

I'd really love to get a hold of this model, but can't search for it until I know what it's called

Thanks



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Conversion based on the Masters of the Chapter set with a Howling Banshee Sword.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Space-Marine-Masters-of-the-Chapter

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Craftworlds-Howling-Banshees-2020

EDIT: Don't know about the head, looks like it was greenstuffed maybe?


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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine






Thanks for chiming in.

A kitbash eh? Makes sense I couldn't find a matching model.

It's exactly the helmet which interests me the most. If its a DIY sculpt, i'm gonna be SOL.

   
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Odds on the head is from forgeworld. Try giving the 30k range a squizz and chances are you'll find it.

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The head is 100% FW, probably some upgrade kit. Take a look at anything MkIV

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 Snrub wrote:
Odds on the head is from forgeworld. Try giving the 30k range a squizz and chances are you'll find it.


I thought it was Eidolon's head - it's close but not 100%
   
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Yeah, Forgeworld, not sure which one though. Moritat has the same overall design, but with a targeting array plus decorative lil' skull. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Moritat-with-Volkite-Serpenta

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From the FW MkIV head packs, it's obviously based on the MkIV helmet, but there's several differences that suggest it's a 3rd party head. Mainly, the rivets around the brow appear inset rather then sticking out and the vents on the sides are really far forward for GW, almost reminiscent of Banshee masks actually, which is where the sword came from.


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Another interesting thing I just noticed is that the backpack appears to be a CSM backpack from the previous sculpt, but it might also be a FW or 3rd party piece like the helmet.

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Plastic Tartaros have an incredibly similar helmet (clearly distinct and only a single one though). Mk IV Destroyer helmets are in the same style, but I cant remember seeing that trim on top so far.

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I think the head is from the destroyers kit.

 
   
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine






I recently bought a legion destroyers kit from FW so I'm 100% sure the head doesn't come from that box.

I do appreciate all your help though! The suggestion about it being a 3rd party head sounds most plausible at this point but I might have missed something.. I've looked through the FW head upgrades but no match yet
   
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I took a long stroll through all the big 3rd party shops I know of and couldn't find it. Took a long stroll through Shapeways and the closest I've seen so far is this: https://www.shapeways.com/product/STRKFKJAM/10x-bellator-ua-helmets?optionId=194541473&li=shops


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I'll keep looking though, since I also like that helmet.

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Well yes, the nose part of the helmet is similar with these, but they look less "beaky", stumpier somehow, and the top part of the helmet isn't a close match.

Appreciate you digging into this though! It's a cool looking helmet.
   
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Pretty sure that's a Phalanx Warder helmet from the Imperial Fists HH upgrade range - one of the close-up pictures shows that modified brow ridge well.

No idea where the helm crest is from, the sword is from a Wraithguard rather than a Howling Banshee (it's a bit larger, and you can see the hand is nearly too big for a space marine), and the icon is from the Terminator Captain.

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 SmallChanges wrote:
Pretty sure that's a Phalanx Warder helmet from the Imperial Fists HH upgrade range - one of the close-up pictures shows that modified brow ridge well.

No idea where the helm crest is from, the sword is from a Wraithguard rather than a Howling Banshee (it's a bit larger, and you can see the hand is nearly too big for a space marine), and the icon is from the Terminator Captain.


Phalanx Warder upgrade set looks like a pretty good match, 2 helmets out of the 6 look like they might actually be the exact same ones.

Thanks a bunch!
   
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 SmallChanges wrote:
Pretty sure that's a Phalanx Warder helmet from the Imperial Fists HH upgrade range - one of the close-up pictures shows that modified brow ridge well.

No idea where the helm crest is from, the sword is from a Wraithguard rather than a Howling Banshee (it's a bit larger, and you can see the hand is nearly too big for a space marine), and the icon is from the Terminator Captain.


Nice spot! It does indeed look like the fourth and first from the right are the exact helmet.


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 tauist wrote:
Well yes, the nose part of the helmet is similar with these, but they look less "beaky", stumpier somehow, and the top part of the helmet isn't a close match.

Appreciate you digging into this though! It's a cool looking helmet.


Yeah, they do appear to be more flat faced and with a more pronounced brow. So not a whole lot unless you have one eye and are looking straight on. And yet, it was still the closest look I could find.


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Oh come on! I was thinking about getting that set because it looks so cool and I like Crimson Fists, but when I switched it to delivery to America it says the product is No Longer Available!
Other countries can still get it, why not US customers?

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 SmallChanges wrote:
Pretty sure that's a Phalanx Warder helmet from the Imperial Fists HH upgrade range - one of the close-up pictures shows that modified brow ridge well.

No idea where the helm crest is from, the sword is from a Wraithguard rather than a Howling Banshee (it's a bit larger, and you can see the hand is nearly too big for a space marine), and the icon is from the Terminator Captain.


Oh yeah, definitely Wraithguard, my mistake.

Though that does mean the hand only has 3 fingers on it.
   
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 SergentSilver wrote:
 SmallChanges wrote:
Pretty sure that's a Phalanx Warder helmet from the Imperial Fists HH upgrade range - one of the close-up pictures shows that modified brow ridge well.

No idea where the helm crest is from, the sword is from a Wraithguard rather than a Howling Banshee (it's a bit larger, and you can see the hand is nearly too big for a space marine), and the icon is from the Terminator Captain.


Nice spot! It does indeed look like the fourth and first from the right are the exact helmet.


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 tauist wrote:
Well yes, the nose part of the helmet is similar with these, but they look less "beaky", stumpier somehow, and the top part of the helmet isn't a close match.

Appreciate you digging into this though! It's a cool looking helmet.


Yeah, they do appear to be more flat faced and with a more pronounced brow. So not a whole lot unless you have one eye and are looking straight on. And yet, it was still the closest look I could find.


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Oh come on! I was thinking about getting that set because it looks so cool and I like Crimson Fists, but when I switched it to delivery to America it says the product is No Longer Available!
Other countries can still get it, why not US customers?


I bought one of the helmets from the kit from ebay this morning. Its not the clean forehead version, so will need to shave off the iconography from the forehead myself, but it cost like 3€. Postage was cheap too. The seller had still 3 remaining IIRC

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 SergentSilver wrote:
Oh come on! I was thinking about getting that set because it looks so cool and I like Crimson Fists, but when I switched it to delivery to America it says the product is No Longer Available!
Other countries can still get it, why not US customers?


US orders ship from the US (I think it's still from the Citadel), while everywhere else ships from the UK. They'll be available again once they get a supply drop.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 SergentSilver wrote:
Oh come on! I was thinking about getting that set because it looks so cool and I like Crimson Fists, but when I switched it to delivery to America it says the product is No Longer Available!
Other countries can still get it, why not US customers?


US orders ship from the US (I think it's still from the Citadel), while everywhere else ships from the UK. They'll be available again once they get a supply drop.


And GW prevents cross-region selling so that they can price fix in individual regions (otherwise you could just pay a few bucks extra shipping to get it sent from the UK).

But "No Longer Available" often means it's not coming back. "Temporarily Out of Stock" means it's likely coming back.
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But "No Longer Available" often means it's not coming back. "Temporarily Out of Stock" means it's likely coming back.

Normally yes, but they're having issues with their stock system (as mentioned elsewhere).
   
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beast_gts wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But "No Longer Available" often means it's not coming back. "Temporarily Out of Stock" means it's likely coming back.

Normally yes, but they're having issues with their stock system (as mentioned elsewhere).


I've heard about that. I sure hope they haven't arbitrarily decided that they were done printing half the 30k range suddenly. Not because I want to get into 30k, but because the models are really cool and I would love to get some for more coolness factor and simple variety in my 40k armies. Maybe eventually even have enough to give 30k a try as well.
   
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 SergentSilver wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But "No Longer Available" often means it's not coming back. "Temporarily Out of Stock" means it's likely coming back.

Normally yes, but they're having issues with their stock system (as mentioned elsewhere).


I've heard about that. I sure hope they haven't arbitrarily decided that they were done printing half the 30k range suddenly. Not because I want to get into 30k, but because the models are really cool and I would love to get some for more coolness factor and simple variety in my 40k armies. Maybe eventually even have enough to give 30k a try as well.


FW have killed off a lot of nice looking models in recent years.

But you can email and ask them. FW are far better than GW at knowing why something went out of stock and if it's coming back.
   
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The FW online store has been a mess in recent times. Many defacto items were listed as "No longer available" etc, just to reappear later. Most recently, this happened to the HH Rhino variant kit, and to the HH Apotecharies kit before that. Both items have returned to the store.

If in doubt, emailing FW sounds like a good way to verify availability.

More or less, I feel like FW also tries to follow the "no model, no rules" dogma.. Anything listed in their recent books as viable unit choices will probably remain in stock as long as nothing gets legended

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