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Original Beast Snagga video:



Full run-down of new releases, including images of the model and the tapestry spoiler:

According to stream half the new releases will be in the beast snagga army box which will also include the codex and be available before you can buy a stand-alone codex.
In the box:
1. Nob on Smasha Squig
Spoiler:



2. Zodgrod Wortsnagga
Spoiler:



3. Squighog Riders
Spoiler:



4. Beast Snagga Boyz
Spoiler:



Not in the box:
1. Pain boss
Spoiler:



2. Mega Boss
Spoiler:



3. Squig Sled (not revealed yet)
Spoiler:



4. Beast Snagga Warboss? (not revealed yet)
Spoiler:




Warhammer community articles:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/17/believe-it-or-not-this-runtherd-was-exiled-for-being-nice-to-grots/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/07/warhammer-fest-online-day-5-even-more-warhammer-40000/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/03/this-dok-is-so-committed-to-rapid-response-hes-upgraded-his-own-legs/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/04/19/what-do-you-mean-not-all-beast-snaggas-ride-squigs/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/04/05/who-are-those-beast-snagga-gits-anyway/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/05/31/orks-are-some-of-the-toughest-creatures-in-the-galaxy-now-weve-got-the-stats-to-prove-it/

Thrakka datasheet:
Spoiler:


Noteworthy changes:
- moar attacks
- moar dakka (Mork's Roar is rapid fire, stikkbombs are heavy)
- no degrading profile

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Didn't he have a sweep style attack option on his last datasheet?

and rapid fire 12 makes me a happy ork indeed! I hope DakkaDakkaDakka now triggers an additional hit, not hit roll
   
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Are degrading profiles usually included in the instruction data sheets?
   
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They were on Mortarion, at least.
   
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fwiw I dont think degrading profiles are shown on the simplified datasheet. But Morks Roar rapid fire bodes well for an improvmeent of ork shooting weaponry...

You know what'd be neat is if DDD made any Rapid Fire or Pistol weapon become an Assault weapon if you Advance, and all the currently assault shooting weapons became rapid fire.

"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

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 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
Didn't he have a sweep style attack option on his last datasheet?

Nope, just the one profile.



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Dendarien wrote:Are degrading profiles usually included in the instruction data sheets?


the_scotsman wrote:fwiw I dont think degrading profiles are shown on the simplified datasheet.

All applicable DG models had degrading profiles on their simplified sheet. I'm holding the one for the malignifier in my hands right now.

You know what'd be neat is if DDD made any Rapid Fire or Pistol weapon become an Assault weapon if you Advance, and all the currently assault shooting weapons became rapid fire.

That would indeed be a cool change, though I will miss hitting someone twice with one rokkit.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
fwiw I dont think degrading profiles are shown on the simplified datasheet. But Morks Roar rapid fire bodes well for an improvmeent of ork shooting weaponry...

You know what'd be neat is if DDD made any Rapid Fire or Pistol weapon become an Assault weapon if you Advance, and all the currently assault shooting weapons became rapid fire.


Mortarion and triacrch stalker say hi. They had degrading profile on these for sure.

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So glad I spent money on Saga of the Beast last year. So glad. Thanks, GW.
   
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So you are upset that you had a full year+ to use Ghaz? It will still be months before we even get to use this new profile.

You had plenty of time to play with him using the Saga rules. It isn't GW's fault covid shut everything down.(assuming you stopped playing due to it)
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
So glad I spent money on Saga of the Beast last year. So glad. Thanks, GW.

You would need to get the new codex regardless... just be happy ghaz got better NOT worse.
   
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That's such a weird transliteration in the Japanese: Gazugukkaru Zaraga. The Japanese translation of the blurb above the rules is also awkward and unnatural. Are the Japanese translations of GW products all this bad? I've never looked before.
   
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yukishiro1 wrote:
That's such a weird transliteration in the Japanese: Gazugukkaru Zaraga. The Japanese translation of the blurb above the rules is also awkward and unnatural. Are the Japanese translations of GW products all this bad? I've never looked before.


I'm no expert, but I haven't the foggiest how they were translate that normally. So much info can be lost between romantic and altaic languages. His name is straight gibberish to begin with.

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Realistically for a unit that can advance and charge. Rapid fire is a bad profile for the shooting weapon. They should have just gave him bs 4+ or made it assault 24 if they wanted to make the weapon better.

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Gazugaru Zaaka would be the obvious choice.
   
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The dark hollows of Kentucky

12 wounds and no degrading profile? Cool. Does anything else in the game have 10+ wounds and no degrading profile? And why does the supreme representative of Gork and Mork only have L8? I don't think my Warp Talons should be able to use Prey On the Weak on something like Ghaz.
   
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AOS has non-degrading profiles 10W and over. I don't think 40k has had it before.
   
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G-Gazugukkaru-sempai...

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
12 wounds and no degrading profile? Cool. Does anything else in the game have 10+ wounds and no degrading profile? And why does the supreme representative of Gork and Mork only have L8? I don't think my Warp Talons should be able to use Prey On the Weak on something like Ghaz.


Leadership 8 may have more to do with who or what he is leading, such that a sensible lack of faith in one’s fellow ork may be cunning rather than brutal. Maybe?

   
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Apparently it's the same sheet he's always had, they just screwed it up initially and never fixed it.
   
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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
12 wounds and no degrading profile? Cool. Does anything else in the game have 10+ wounds and no degrading profile? And why does the supreme representative of Gork and Mork only have L8? I don't think my Warp Talons should be able to use Prey On the Weak on something like Ghaz.


His leadership usually is 20+, good luck preying on that.

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Climate change is real
Chemtrails aren't a thing
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Orks are not a melee army
Stand up for science!
 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
12 wounds and no degrading profile? Cool. Does anything else in the game have 10+ wounds and no degrading profile? And why does the supreme representative of Gork and Mork only have L8? I don't think my Warp Talons should be able to use Prey On the Weak on something like Ghaz.


His leadership usually is 20+, good luck preying on that.

He's got Mob Rule? Cool. That makes sense.
   
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Yup. Makes perfect sense.

   
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Domandi wrote:
So you are upset that you had a full year+ to use Ghaz? It will still be months before we even get to use this new profile.

You had plenty of time to play with him using the Saga rules. It isn't GW's fault covid shut everything down.(assuming you stopped playing due to it)


I am, and I do still think that Saga of the Beast was a waste of cash. Especially since 9th edition was announced maybe two months later.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
Domandi wrote:
So you are upset that you had a full year+ to use Ghaz? It will still be months before we even get to use this new profile.

You had plenty of time to play with him using the Saga rules. It isn't GW's fault covid shut everything down.(assuming you stopped playing due to it)


I am, and I do still think that Saga of the Beast was a waste of cash. Especially since 9th edition was announced maybe two months later.


9e ed or not new codex would have come out anyway.

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 Mr. Grey wrote:
Domandi wrote:
So you are upset that you had a full year+ to use Ghaz? It will still be months before we even get to use this new profile.

You had plenty of time to play with him using the Saga rules. It isn't GW's fault covid shut everything down.(assuming you stopped playing due to it)


I am, and I do still think that Saga of the Beast was a waste of cash. Especially since 9th edition was announced maybe two months later.


Tbf, if you've been playing or involved at all with GW's products, you know the shelf life of any book they release is extremely small compared to that of their models. Whether or not you find cheaper ways of acquiring the necessary things or choosing to continue to use older books is entirely up to you. Not saying GW shouldn't embrace a free online living ruleset, but with the way they're using books to push sales atm, I can't see the monetary incentive for them currently to move away from printing books.

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I wouldn't say it was a waste of cash. It came with a ton of cool models, and the rules helped both armies. Was it worth full price? meh. I made out fine because I sold off the marine parts.

Either way, I am super pumped for the new Ork codex given how all the other 9th books have been. I also can't wait to play in stores again.
   
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Honestly GW's release schedule has been pretty messed up for a while now. More a covid and Evergreen thing than specifically GWs fault. Hopefully a fair bit from Saga will be ported over to the codex, or otherwise refined. Cause it had some fun stuff in it for sure.

Either way, if that is Ghaz's new sheet I do hope we see more units soon.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Domandi wrote:
So you are upset that you had a full year+ to use Ghaz? It will still be months before we even get to use this new profile.

You had plenty of time to play with him using the Saga rules. It isn't GW's fault covid shut everything down.(assuming you stopped playing due to it)


I am, and I do still think that Saga of the Beast was a waste of cash. Especially since 9th edition was announced maybe two months later.


9e ed or not new codex would have come out anyway.


Sorry, but nobody could have known that at the time. I certainly didn't, and really wasn't aware up until the last stages of 8th edition that a lot of GW's main games had been on a 3-year new edition cycle. If there's anything it's taught me, it's to never buy GW books unless I'm absolutely guaranteed to play the game, preferably with a painted army. I'm also sitting on some AoS core rules and the Gloomspite battletome, which has never seen play.
   
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I think everyone knew PA books are a cashgrab.

Just like charadon is a cash grab now and whatever future Not-supplement wave will be. If people keep buyin GW will keep making.

I bought my PA book for quick reference and only at severe discount when we ordered our PR box set with a mate. Even that felt kind of dirty supporting GW with their dang book.

not even going to do that for the inevitable CWE not-supplement.

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I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


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I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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yukishiro1 wrote:That's such a weird transliteration in the Japanese: Gazugukkaru Zaraga. The Japanese translation of the blurb above the rules is also awkward and unnatural. Are the Japanese translations of GW products all this bad? I've never looked before.


yukishiro1 wrote:Gazugaru Zaaka would be the obvious choice.


How do you get that?

It's trying to "transcribe" Ghazghkull". And it's doing so as Gazu Gu <stop> KaRu. If you're pronouncing Ghazghkull as Gazg <stop> kull, that's traditionally transcribed that way. The same sort of way that Gundam is written "Gandamu"--just because all of the vowels sound alike to English speakers, doesn't mean they do to everyone else.
   
 
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