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Well, Talos, the Night Lord apothecary, DID defeat Jain Zar in single combat.

But Dan Abnett has no concept or familiarity with actual 40k lore, so take that as you will. He's the worst thing that ever happened to the lore.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Talos did not defeat her in single combat.

She disarmed and stabbed him, and while bleeding to death he detonated a bomb attached to his armor that blew them both up.

And the Night Lords trilogy was written by Aaron Dembski-Bowden, not Dan Abnett. If you want to see a truly heinous worfing of a phoenix lord, see Karandras getting one-shot by a random unnamed Dreadnought in the Path of the Eldar series.

Ah you’re right. My brain was just clouded with rage at the physical body inside what he called Jain Zara armor. Both authors don’t care even a little bit about 40k lore

As for the Karandras thing, I had no issues with that. For one, a dread has routinely been able to kill Karandras for 7 editions now. For two, Karandras didn’t really lose a fight, he intentionally intercepted a death blow