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Why might you imagine it is easier to criticise Games Workshop here than Frontline Gaming?

I refer to the recent threads shut down (by the same moderator, as it happens) regarding criticism/conversation around FLG's statment/smear of a former employee. Why might they get better protection than Games Workshop who produce this game and are *roundly* (fairly) criticised for their failures right here, every day, with absolutely no pushback from administration?

Maybe because they advertise here. They partially (largely if the ads I see are indicative) fund this, and as such they have more say in dictating the discourse. Financial pressure applied. And maximised. Against speech that doesn't break any of the established rules, but which, to borrow a term, endangers the bag.

I've linked to Propaganda's Hood Politics podcast before now (in posts sadly and coincidentally deleted) but it's about securing the bag. When the money is paramount, endangering the rep of the organisation, showing weakness, *looking* like you're flawed, that needs shut down. And here, that happens with regard to FLG, not GW. Without fail. Because criticism threatens the money.

Follow the money.

"Politics is just gang banging in nice suits"

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One of the touchstones I keep returning to, mentally, right now is the first contact I had with FLG - a nifty little laser line for my warmachine-ing. It was a neat little product, but they didn't make it, just branded and marketed it. I still use it, it's great, but follow the money. Access to the market, ensure the profit margin... secure the bag. Get banging

The two threads closed related to FLG were closed because they were going nowhere. They aren't even hidden, they are there to be read but because there wasn't any details nor any change it was just a continual case of repeating the same information and then endless guesswork and "worst and best" case examples being thrown around.

I don't see any special protections or any great secrets of insults or anything related to FLG - if anything both threads left them appearing in worse light.


I think you're looking for conspiracies and money where there isn't any

I mean there is also a direct referent to the totenkopf debacle that utterly locks down any conversation about it while simultaneously allowing the "but it's not the same skull" posts stand. We are watching the pattern over a series of years. It is not flattering, and... not the same skull indeed...

https://i.ibb.co/sFhf1Fv/Untitled.jpg

Bollocks isn't it and the pathetic insistence of FLG and our community on not addressing it makes us complicit.

On the plus side, Brook said to take the iconography discussion elsewhere, and this is elsewhere.

Parts of the community: "The Empire is clearly nazistic/fascistic and you are dumb if you don't acknowledge that/think they are the good guys".
Also (other?) parts community: "using fascistic iconography on Imperial models is evil and should be banned!".
But enough about that, I don't think DakkaDakka Mods are locking down discussion on one of their "sponsors" lol. You think any of those threads would have gone to the page count they did if that were remotely true? FLG and competitive gaming in general gets smack talked here all the time and is never banned from what I've seen. Chances are those threads just devolved into personal attacks/circular arguing and the Mods rightly decided those threads had outlived there usefulness for fresh and polite discussion.

Castozor wrote:Parts of the community: "The Empire is clearly nazistic/fascistic and you are dumb if you don't acknowledge that/think they are the good guys".
Also (other?) parts community: "using fascistic iconography on Imperial models is evil and should be banned!".

The Imperium can be clearly fascist and the bad guys without needing to *actually put real life fascistic imagery on them*.

Pretty sure the 40k General isn't the subforum for wacky conspiracy theories.

Though I'm pretty sure that thread got shut down too, without any 'bags of money bags' or people being unable to distinguish between fantasy and real fascist repression.

And FLG does criticized. A fair bit. I've certainly done so, and fairly unkindly.

I admit, I may be reading more into the "our vision for..." part of the statement, but that reads like a power play to me, and I've seen that play out before.

You're making this into a much bigger issue than it actually is. The threads in question were closed because they were locked in a spiral of speculation that wasn't actually going anywhere productive.

Advertising revenue helps to keep the lights on, but does not dictate moderation policy.

And none of this has anything to do with general 40K discussion.

Moving on.