Irbis wrote:leerm02 wrote:
Which chapter would be best for a pure primaris build? Specifically, as I'm already planning on keeping my firstborn as a custom chapter (with the custom chapter rules) which supplement-based chapter (Deathwatch, Dark Angels, ect) would be best for a pure primaris collection?
Custom one too. If you have primaris only, you'd likely want the reroll bolters trait. Now, as for the descendant bit, probably Ultramarines or Raven Guard. Both have tons of options for shooty primaris, though
RG tend to lean toward the Vanguard ones. Salamanders and Crimson Fists are OK too.
Don't take Deathwatch, they used to be good with primaris, but in 9th, are complete, utter, below bottom garbage. Literally every other supplement is better
Woah, I mean it's pointless getting into an argument over army power as it's gonna be subjective, especially if we're discussing only Primaris as can't even really look at competitive data but Deathwatch are certainly not below bottom garbage tier. That is a very misinformed view.
They are very very solid with Primaris. Indomitor kill teams are very powerful, as are Proteus teams with hellblasters. Combat squadding 4/1 or 5 outriders with obsec. Giving multiple Redemptors 5++ in an aura etc. Many of the current top table competitive
DW lists are going heavy on Dreadnought spam which means that the rest of the list is just cheap firstborn marines, but that isn't the only way to run Deathwatch successfully.
There's lots of great abilities that Deathwatch bring to the table, they're certainly not the weakest marine faction by a long shot. I've recently been playing pure Primaris
DW and having a lot of success with it. None of the other chapters scare me one bit. I would argue
DW are stronger than most of the codex chapters and blood angels, Dark Angels took some hits recently.
I'd also add, getting away from the purely competitive perspective, if you already have a marine army, Deathwatch certainly offer a rather different dimension where if you did end up having a cross over of units between each army they can feel pretty different.
If you're really interested in the primaris sculpts and the modelling side,
DW give you so many cool options and you can always convert Deathwatch Vets from intercessors too. Nobody is gonna mistake an intercessor with a
DW pauldron and storm shield as anything but a
DW Vet. All of my Vets are kitbashed primaris.
Automatically Appended Next Post: My current 2000pt Deathwatch list:
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Deathwatch) [106 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total
PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Chapter Selection: Deathwatch
Detachment Command Cost
+ Stratagems +
Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics
Stratagem: Sanction of the Black Vault [-1CP]
+ HQ +
Primaris Captain [5 PL, 105pts]: Dominus Aegis
. Heavy bolt pistol, Master-crafted power sword and Relic shield: Master-crafted power sword, Relic Shield
Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]: 2. Catechism of Fire, 4. Optimised Priority (Aura), 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Stratagem: A Vigil Unmatched, The Beacon Angelis, Warlord, Wise Orator
Primaris Librarian [6 PL, -1CP, 120pts]: 1. Premorphic Resonance, 2. Fortified With Contempt, 5. Mantle of Shadow, Chapter Command: Chief Librarian, Psychic Mastery, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter
+ Troops +
Fortis Kill Team [16 PL, 270pts]
. 5x Hellblaster w/ Assault plasma incinerator: 5x Assault Plasma Incinerator, 5x Bolt pistol, 5x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant: Auto Bolt Rifle, Power sword
. 4x Intercessor w/ Auto Bolt Rifle: 4x Auto Bolt Rifle, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
Fortis Kill Team [15 PL, 320pts]
. Intercessor Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Auto Bolt Rifle
. 5x Intercessor w/ Auto Bolt Rifle: 5x Auto Bolt Rifle, 5x Bolt pistol, 5x Frag & Krak grenades
. 4x Outrider: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Twin Bolt rifle
Indomitor Kill Team [20 PL, 400pts]: Dominatus
. 3x Aggressor w/ Flamestorm Gauntlets: 6x Flamestorm Gauntlets
. Heavy Intercessor Sergeant: Hellstorm Bolt Rifle
. 4x Heavy Intercessor w/ Hellstorm Bolt Rifle: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Hellstorm Bolt Rifle
. 2x Inceptor w/ Plasma Exterminators: 2x 2x Plasma Exterminators
+ Elites +
Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 115pts]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter
Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 185pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
+ Fast Attack +
Inceptor Squad [14 PL, 160pts]: Assault bolter x2, 3x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant
++ Total: [106 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++
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