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I apologize if this is answered somewhere elsewhere.

With the thousand sons rule All is Dust, you get a +1 armor save versus D1 weapons. This is generally pretty easy to understand. However, where I've had trouble understanding is how does this apply to D3, D6 damage weapons? Do you roll the damage, determine if the damage, and then make the saving throw for every wound that gets through?

A D3 or D6 damage weapon is not damage 1 weapon, they are D3 or D6 damage weapons.

Basically if the weapon's profile on the Dataslate is 1 for Damage, then All is Dust applies. If it is anything else on the Dataslate, then you can not use All is Dust.

So the ability does not trigger for any D3 or D6 weapons period, regardless of the roll they make? The weapon has to specifically be a D1 weapon (Or a D2 weapon that has been reduced with that new strategem)

Perfect, thank you for the clarification.

Yes, of course. The damage of a weapon isn't found out until,after yiu make saves.

Just for clarification, even if you would roll the damage of a D3 or D6 damage weapon before the saving throw, All is Dust would not trigger.

D3 and D6 are not 1D, irrespective of what the damage roll is.

a_typical_hero wrote:
Just for clarification, even if you would roll the damage of a D3 or D6 damage weapon before the saving throw, All is Dust would not trigger.

D3 and D6 are not 1D, irrespective of what the damage roll is.

Considering you can't roll damage before the model makes a save, it is not relevant.

It is in reponse to what nosferatu1001 wrote. Because the way they did, it implies that the damage roll of the D3 or D6 weapon would have an impact if it was before the saving throw.

Edit: And it is still relevant for Nurglings, where they only get a FNP against 1D weapons. So there is your instance where the damage roll is before a (FNP) "save".

But you don't roll Disgusting Resilient before you Save. You roll it during the Inflict Damage stage of the combat. Even then, the attack does not have a Damage characteristic of 1 after the roll is made. It just inflicts 1 damage.

Why does it feel like you want to argue with me even though you agree with what I wrote?

Let me reiterate and make it clear:
nosferatu1001 wrote that "The damage of a weapon isn't found out until,after you make saves." which implies that if you would find out the damage of a weapon before the save, it could affect All is Dust (in case you roll a 1).

I said that the timing of when you roll the damage characteristic for a D3 or D6 weapon would not matter, as rolling a 1 on a D3 / D6 is not the same as a 1D damage characteristic, which is what All is Dust is going off of.

One further example where you have a conditional effect for 1D weapons is DR from Nurglings, an instance where you roll the damage before doing your FNP save. Same as above, it does not matter if you roll a 1, as the damage characteristic is still D3 / D6 and thus, negates their DR.

There is no such implication. It's pointing out that, even if you thought d3 was a damage 1 weapon you wouldn't find out in time.

 DeathReaper wrote:
A D3 or D6 damage weapon is not damage 1 weapon, they are D3 or D6 damage weapons.

Basically if the weapon's profile on the Dataslate is 1 for Damage, then All is Dust applies. If it is anything else on the Dataslate, then you can not use All is Dust.

careful. this is effectively incorrect with the new way tsons reduce damage with their strat "unwavering phalanx"

they have the ability to turn damage 2 weps to 1 before allocation which gives them use of their all is dust ability. very cool tech.

 Aijec wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
A D3 or D6 damage weapon is not damage 1 weapon, they are D3 or D6 damage weapons.

Basically if the weapon's profile on the Dataslate is 1 for Damage, then All is Dust applies. If it is anything else on the Dataslate, then you can not use All is Dust.

careful. this is effectively incorrect with the new way tsons reduce damage with their strat "unwavering phalanx"

they have the ability to turn damage 2 weps to 1 before allocation which gives them use of their all is dust ability. very cool tech.

It is not incorrect.

They need to use a strat to do so, so I have shown the correct base rules.