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Greenblood wrote:
Ok I get it this is a buggy boy forum. I’ll leave you all to argue about scrapjets for 30 more pages. But remember I was the guy who told you Goff green tide is still alive and well. Go try for yourself.

Out of curiosity, what armies do your usual opponents play? I play Goffs against DG, BA, or Necrons usually and my boys almost never survive more than 2 turns unless they are cowering behind LOS blocking terrain, 30 man blob or not.

 Afrodactyl wrote:
ObSec Killa Kanz would be sweet.

Even if the Dreadwaaagh rule was to make Deff Dreads and/or Killa Kanz Core, that would be great.

I would love to run a spearhead of nine Deff Dreads and fifteen Kans and it actually be viable.

Deff Dreads should have been a Core unit from the start, not being able to advance and charge during a Waaagh is silly. They just don't move fast enough right now to compete with other options and tend to die before reaching combat unless you bring a KFF and super charge it for a turn.

Looks like buggies got the nerfbat in the new rules update. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/11/09/game-balance-is-at-the-heart-of-this-official-warhammer-40000-rules-update/

Edit: No point hike but now limited to 1 unit of each buggy for your army.

Looks like my Dread-Waaagh! list is going to need to change pretty dramatically, not being able to deploy them in squads of 2 or three pretty much kills the list.